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    What's Eric Eating Episode 232

    The Fine chef behind Chris Shepherd's Wild new spot, plus Houston's hottest restaurant news

    CultureMap Staff
    Mar 17, 2022 | 11:30 am
    Chicken fried steak is can't miss at Wild Oats.
    Chicken fried steak is can't miss at Wild Oats.
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    On this week's episode of "What's Eric Eating," chef Nick Fine joins CultureMap food editor Eric Sandler to discuss Wild Oats. Newly opened in the Houston Farmers Market, Wild Oats is Underbelly Hospitality's ode to Texas's diverse culinary traditions.

    Fine discusses his unlikely entry into the world of professional cooking, and the path that ultimately led him to opening One Fifth with Underbelly Hospitality founder Chris Shepherd. The conversation touches on a number of Wild Oats' signature elements, including Fine's meticulous research into chicken fried steak, the restaurant's all-you-can-eat Sunday brunch, and its wood-burning grill designed by star pitmaster Aaron Franklin.

    The chef says that he's had to expand his responsibilities from just running the restaurant — creating dishes, interacting with the staff, ordering supplies, etc — to looking at things from a broader business perspective. Sandler asks him to elaborate on what that entails.

    "What really matters, especially now, is how many people are working? How much are you paying those people? Do you need everybody there, and is everybody working as hard as they need to be? Part of the things is, if we can get less people and pay them more money, they're going to be better off," Fine says.

    After noting that the company has recently started providing health insurance to all of its employees, he adds, "The way we want to start running these businesses into just to line everybody's pockets. It's to take care of our employees."

    Listen to the full episode to hear Fine's thoughts on the plans to relocate Georgia James to its new home in the Regent Square mixed-use episode and why he's confident that Pastore, the company's new Italian-American restaurant, will be one to watch.

    Prior to the interview, Sandler and co-host Linda Salinas discuss the news of the week. Their topics include: Gr8 Plate Hospitality owners Doris and Paul Miller opening Passerella, a new Italian seafood restaurant in Cypress; Jackson Street BBQ closing after eight years; and Liuyishou Hotpot opening in Chinatown.

    In the restaurants of the week segment, they discuss their recent meals at Loro, the Asian smokehouse concept from Uchi owners Hai Hospitality. They conclude with some thoughts on their brunch at Tatemó, chef Emmanuel Chavez's corn-focused Mexican restaurant.

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    Chef Nick Fine is this week's guest.

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    an offer he couldn't refuse

    Exclusive: Killen's Barbecue will soon shutter in The Woodlands

    Eric Sandler
    Dec 1, 2025 | 10:30 am
    Killen's barbecue meat platter with sides
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    Fans of Killen’s Barbecue’s location in The Woodlands have a days to make one last visit. The restaurant will close this Sunday, December 7, chef-owner Ronnie Killen tells CultureMap.

    Open since 2021, Killen says that he’s in final negotiations to sell the location at 8800 Six Pines Dr. to Whataburger for a new location of the iconic Texas fast food restaurant. Neither the original location of Killen’s Barbecue in Pearland nor its Cypress location are affected by the closure of The Woodlands and will remain open.

    “Whataburger made me a deal I couldn’t pass up. It would take 10 years to do that kind of revenue,” Killen writes in a text, adding that the company recently made a significant payment to keep the deal’s window open through the end of the year.

    He added that the costs to operate the restaurant have gone up significantly. As one example, a cord of wood cost $175 when he opened the first Killen’s Barbecue in 2013. It costs $475 now, he writes.

    If the deal falls through, Killen states that he could look for a new buyer or convert the restaurant into a second location of Killen’s Burger, the retro-styled burger joint he operates in Pearland.

    The restaurant’s closure had been expected since February, when Killen sold The Woodlands’ location of Killen's Steakhouse. At the time, Killen said he also planned to find a buyer for his barbecue joint in the bustling suburb. He cited the driving distance from Pearland to The Woodlands as one reason he chose to divest both locations. He still operates Killen's Steakhouse in Pearland, comfort food restaurant Killen's near the Heights, Killen's Burger, and three other locations of Killen's Barbecue.

    As it approaches its 13th anniversary in the spring, Killen’s Barbecue remains a vital part of Houston’s barbecue scene. The restaurant recently earned an honorable mention from Texas Monthly and holds a Bib Gourmand designation in the Michelin Guide. In July, it opened a new location at Hobby Airport.

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