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    Ken Hoffman faces off with tough guy ESPN 97.5 host AJ Hoffman

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    Jun 18, 2018 | 1:09 pm
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    The hilarious Hoffman is also a respected MMA competitor.
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    I like to track down a media personality for 10 Questions — things that regular listeners may not know about the person behind the voice or teleprompter.

    With AJ Hoffman, the outspoken and often outrageous co-host of The Blitz with Fred Faour weekdays from 4-7 pm on ESPN 97.5 FM, it’s all there in his Twitter bio:

    “Sometimes I talk about sports on the radio. Sometimes I fight people in cages for money. Sometimes I drink beer. Sometimes I eat BBQ. Sometimes I do other stuff.”

    So let’s dig a little deeper. First off, AJ stands for Arthur Joe — and no, we are not related.

    Ken Hoffman: What would possess a somewhat rational human being to enter the octagon for an MMA fight? You're not exactly a desperate kid fighting his way out of the slums.

    AJ Hoffman: I have always loved competing. I had watched the sport since I was in junior high. I was interviewing a fighter who was about to make his UFC debut, and his coach suggested I come out and train. The coach is this guy named Jorge 'Macaco' Patino, and he is a legit legend in old-school MMA. I felt like I would be a punk if I said no.

    I started going out and figured it would at least be a fun way to work out. I didn't think I was ever going to actually fight, but I got to the point where I was as good as some of the fighters at the gym. I decided to give it a shot.

    KH: What does it feel like to be punched really hard in the face?

    AJH: It sucks. I had been punched in the face plenty of times in my life, but getting punched by a drunk guy on Sixth Street doesn't hurt as much as getting punched by a guy who punches people for money. If you get hit hard enough, especially in the nose, it is basically a given that your eyes are going to well up. Then you feel like the other guy thinks you are crying, and it pisses you off.

    The toughest thing when you are actually trying to learn to be a fighter is not letting your emotions take over. All that said, I feel like everyone should get punched in the face at least once in their lives.

    KH: You have been with ESPN 97.5 from its beginnings in last place to its reign at top of the ratings. How do you explain the station’s success?

    AJH: I knew when I got here it was going to be a slow process. We have never had billboards. We have never been on the back of cabs. We are a legit grassroots station that has been built up by guys telling their friends about us and those guys telling their friends. Fred and I are the only guys left from when David Gow bought our station. We have added some really quality guys since then.

    I honestly think we have the best lineup in the city now, and we should be at the top for a while. Another factor could be all the old people who listen to 790 AM and 610 AM are dying off at a rapid rate.

    KH: Most people hate the sound of their own voice. Do you?

    AJH: I don't really think about it. It used to bother me because when I was starting out, I listened to my show back every single day. I would pick apart little things about my pacing or using transition words like ‘um’ or ‘like.’ Now I have a comfort level. I just talk and if someone doesn't like my voice, it won't devastate me emotionally.

    The only thing that annoys me is when people say they can't tell my voice from Fred's. Fred says dumb stuff all the time and I don't want to catch any of the blame for his nonsense.

    KH: It's called "work" because it's work. I think your best talent is you make your job seem like fun. Is it fun or work for you?

    AJH: It isn't hard work, but it is work. I sometimes wish I could go to bed early instead of watching the Astros play a late game at Oakland. I have had jobs that were real work, and I have a healthy appreciation for being able to make a good living while sitting in air conditioning.

    I love this job, and don't take it for granted. We take our jobs seriously and put in real work where other people in this market sit down and just ‘have fun.’

    KH: Your show is known for going off in wild directions on occasion. Do you plan a show or just let it happen?

    AJH: We plan our show every day. However, Fred and I each plan a different show. We don't sit down together and map out what we are going to do like some sort of wacky morning show. I trust him to prep for everything that might come up, and he trusts me to do the same. We also are willing to audible at the line if a certain topic gains traction or is creating interesting conversation.

    Sometimes people sit in the studio with us and assume that Fred and I must hate each other because we don't talk between segments. I just prefer everything to be organic. If I tell a joke during a commercial break, I am wasting an authentic laugh —or groan — and basically trading it for a fake one. So a lot of our stuff is off-the-cuff.

    KH: If you didn't host a radio show, what would you be doing for a job?

    AJH: I almost left radio a couple of years ago because I got recruited to be a deputy U.S. marshal. At the time, my favorite show on television was Justified, and I thought it would be really awesome to do that kind of work. Then I realized how much more work it would be, and how much of a pay cut I would have. I figured it was best to ride this radio thing out.

    KH: Are you a fan of Houston teams? Does it matter?

    AJH: I am not a normal sports fan. It could have something to do with me working in this business for 14 years, or it could be because I bet on sports. Either way, I don't have an emotional attachment to any teams. If a team loses, it only bothers me if I bet on them. If a team wins, it only excites me if I bet on them. I also don't root for ‘laundry.’ I loved the Rockets when I was a kid, because I loved Hakeem, Otis Thorpe, and Clyde Drexler. I even liked the Rockets when they had Yao and McGrady. Now, James Harden is their best player, and I don't enjoy watching him at all. I guess if I were a real ‘fan,’ I would adjust and start liking them, but I can't.

    I catch grief sometimes for not ‘repping the city,’ but that isn't my job. My job is to give actual opinions on things, and sometimes that opinion isn't that a team is gonna win just because it’s from Houston.

    KH: Who have you met because of your job that excited you the most?

    AJH: That is a tough one. I got to meet Minka Kelly when I was in Austin and they were filming Friday Night Lights. She has always been my celebrity crush so that one was tough to control. Dave Chappelle was a pretty good one, too.

    Oddly, I like experiences more than meeting celebrities. One time Joe Rogan couldn't host the weigh-ins and open workouts when the UFC was in Houston, and the UFC asked me to fill in for him. That was an unbelievably cool experience, and I couldn't control my excitement.

    KH: Have you ever wanted to sucker shot a guest?

    AJH: Once. We had a guy on the show who made a list of the most famous Hoffmans. He left me off the list, and put some real estate agent on it. He was a total ass.

    KH: (I think he’s talking about me.)

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    game, set, zina.

    Best of Ken Hoffman: Interviewing Houston's greatest tennis icon

    Ken Hoffman
    Aug 29, 2024 | 12:30 pm
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    Garrison, a tennis legend, is now the tennis director of Houston Parks and Recreation.

    Editor's note: After the sudden death of beloved columnist Ken Hoffman on July 14, CultureMap is republishing some of our favorite "Hoffman's Houston" columns. In honor of the U.S. Open, here's Ken's interview with Houston tennis legend Zina Garrison; it was originally published on June 27, 2022.

    As a child, Zina Garrison learned how to hit a tennis ball on the public courts at MacGregor Park during the 1970s and became, simply, the most accomplished player ever from Houston.

    She developed into a Grand Slam champion, a Top 5 ranking in the world, Wimbledon finalist in 1990 with 20 tournament titles, Federation Cup captain, and Olympic gold medal winner and later Olympic coach.

    Now Garrison is back where she started, only this time she’s devoted to making Houston a great place to learn and play tennis … again. Like she did.

    “I am now the tennis director of Houston Parks and Recreation,” Garrison tells me. “I’m over all the public tennis programs and facilities. The job came open recently and I applied for it.”

    Wait... she’s the greatest champion this city has ever produced — and she had to apply for that job?

    “To be honest, I was more interested in the benefits than the money. As you get older, you start thinking differently,” she shares.

    Unlike the major sports leagues in America, tennis doesn’t provide any healthcare insurance or assistance once a player, even a legend, retires.

    “They’re working on it,” Garrison, 58, notes. “But as of now, nothing.”

    Garrison said her first priority as Houston’s tennis director is to repair the public courts.

    “I want to bring the public tennis facilities up to where I’d be proud, where everybody would be proud, to bring people to use our courts. There are cracks in the courts. Nothing’s really been done in the last 20 or maybe 30 years,” she says.

    “I’ve traveled to Florida and some other places and they have really nice public courts. Tennis in Houston was really thriving for a while and we had nice courts and people could play in the parks. We had junior programs. We flourished. That’s my main goal.”

    While I had Garrison on the phone, I served up some questions:

    CultureMap: Wimbledon is on. You’re familiar with that tournament, right? Who are your picks to win the men’s side and women’s side?

    Zina Garrison: Yes, I’m familiar with Wimbledon. I have my alarm set for the early morning so I can watch. I have a weird pick, a more personal pick, for the men.

    I would love to see Rafael Nadal keep going on, but it’s going to be tough for him. The guy from Italy, Matteo Berrettini, I watched him play a couple of weeks ago and I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people. And I am absolutely in love with that little guy, Carlos Alcaraz, from Spain. He’s made me watch tennis again.

    On the women’s side, I don’t think it will be Iga Swiatek. I think it’s just too hard to keep a streak like hers (35 matches in a row including the French Open title) going in today’s game. It’s really wide open. I don’t really have a pick, it’s just who comes in and plays well at the right time.

    CM: What do you think about Natela Dzalamidze, the doubles player from Russian who switched her nationality to Georgia so she could play Wimbledon, which has banned players from Russian and Belarus this year?

    ZG: I don’t like that she was able to do that. I was just on the phone with (former pro turned broadcaster) Chanda Rubin talking about what’s going on in tennis these days.

    First of all, there is the human rights stuff that’s going on in Russia and Ukraine. We have to start forcing accountability for actions. A lot of people didn’t agree with what Wimbledon did, but I think they had to take a stand.

    CM: The women’s GOAT is easy — it’s Serena. But who do you think is the men’s GOAT?

    ZG: Wow, that’s a hard one. If you had asked me earlier this year, I would have said Roger Federer because of everything he’s accomplished. But right now I’m going to have to go with Nadal. Nadal has taken tennis to a whole ‘nother level, of getting people to watch, coming out of the pandemic, where he has matches and you think he can’t come back and he’s still grinding no matter what.

    For me, he is the epitome of what we need in this world right now: Never give up but not be selfish about helping others. I know it sounds clichéd, but that’s what I’m going through right now.

    CM: When I first met you, you were painfully shy. It was hard to get an answer out of you. Now you’re a TV commentator and a regular chatterbox. What happened?

    ZG: I was an introvert but I had always been intrigued by people of wisdom. A lot of it came as I developed confidence in myself. I had always been told at a very young age, if you really knew me, I spoke a lot. If you didn’t know me, I would be quiet. I would only speak about things that I was extremely passionate about.

    As I’ve gotten older, because of my experiences. I feel like I can help people so I’m not afraid to say what I want to say.

    CM: Starting the week after Wimbledon, coaches will be allowed to communicate with men players during matches. Up to now, that’s only been allowed in the women’s game. Every other sport allows coaching. Do you think tennis should allow coaching, too?

    ZG: I don’t think coaching should be allowed. That’s one of the great things about tennis. That’s a part of the sport, that you grow and figure things out. You learn to think for yourself.

    There’s always been little signals from coaches, but now you have these full blown conversations. Another bad thing about allowing coaching is it gives the players the opportunity to blame a loss their coach. That’s not good for the sport.

    CM: You were known for wiggling your butt when receiving serve. Did you know you were doing it? Did you do that on purpose?

    ZG: It started off as kind of a joke with my coaches. They said, we need you to move your feet. I said, you mean like this?

    So, it started as a joke but I realized that it helped get my feet moving: Okay, I’m going to keep doing this.

    I’ll never forget that year after I got to the Wimbledon finals, 1990, I went over to Japan and there were 1,200 people there … and all of them started wiggling!

    CM: What was the first extravagant thing you bought for yourself when the tennis prize money started rolling in?

    ZG: It was 1982, and I bought a candy apple red Volkswagen convertible with a white top.

    CM: You were on the Biggest Loser, the show where contestants compete against each other to lose weight. Let’s just say you didn’t win. Are you happy you went on that show, or do you regret it?

    ZG: I was one of the first who had to leave the competition. (No, you were THE first.) It was an experience, but I probably shouldn’t have done it. I think I regret going on there. It wasn’t what I thought it was.

    It was reality TV and at the time I didn’t know what reality TV was .I was more ready to get out of there than anything else.

    CM: Now here’s the big question, Zina. For years, I’ve had a running disagreement with ESPN 97.5 FM morning host John Granato about which is a more demanding, tougher sport – golf or tennis?

    Granato says it’s golf, because the tournament winner has to beat every other player that week, while in tennis the winner just has to beat seven players at most. And, each week, golfers have to contend with a different course.

    But, I say it’s tennis because players have to be in top physical condition, while nearly anyone in any shape can win a golf major.

    Plus, in golf, players have a caddy helping them make decisions. In tennis, players are on their own.

    In golf, you can have a bad day on Thursday and still win the tournament. In tennis, if you have a bad day in the opening round, you’re on a plane out of there.

    In golf, it’s the player against the course. There’s no defense in golf. In tennis, there’s a human opponent trying to beat you.

    In golf, the ball is lying still. In tennis the ball is coming at you at 140 mph.

    So which is the tougher sport, golf or tennis? I’m right ... right?

    ZG: Are you serious? Who is this guy who says golf is harder? The answer is tennis and it’s not even close.

    You’re playing against someone. You’re only controlling the ball when it’s on your side of the net. You can’t control what the other player is doing. It’s almost like a boxer coming at you.

    You have to have both the physical and mental capacity to win. In golf, if you have a bad day, it’s because you’re having that bad day. There’s no opponent competing with you. So, I’m saying it’s tennis.

    CM (note to John Granato): I win. Granted, it might have been the way I asked the question. Also, Garrison is a former tennis pro.

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