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    Anthony Bourdain's Secrets

    Anthony Bourdain reveals plans for "weird" Houston episode and why Tex-Mex food is only good when you're drunk

    Eric Sandler
    Nov 5, 2015 | 12:26 pm

    Anyone who follows food blogs on social media saw that Anthony Bourdain spent Wednesday in Houston. The host of CNN's Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown and the author of books like Kitchen Confidential and the comic book Get Jiro! was in the Bayou City to promote his relationship with Scotch brand Balvenie.

    As part of the brand's 2015 Rare Craft collection, Bourdain has selected artisans in fields like metal working, printmaking and sculpture to feature in a short film series titled Raw Craft that takes viewers behind the scenes of how these items are made. Five members of the class — letterpress artist Megan O'Connell, metalsmith Elizabeth Brim, sculptor Sebastian Martorana, watchmaker Roland Murphy and Balvenie's head cooper Ian McDonald — joined Bourdain for a Scotch tasting and display of their work at Silver Street Studios.

    Read on to find out why the celebrated raconteur chose this project as his first brand association, why he thinks you shouldn't piss off a sushi chef and, most importantly, his first plans to film an episode of Parts Unknown in Houston next year.

    CultureMap: You said you've never participated in a brand association in 15 years. What about this project specifically appealed to you?

    Anthony Bourdain: I like the stuff — that’s to start with. It’s a product that I like, I drink and I’m in no way embarrassed to be seen sitting next to or consuming, because it’s something I genuinely think a lot of.

    Then given the sort of strange and terrible powers to pick out and choose to celebrate for this collection and make short films about, in many respects change their lives, that was enticing. I got a few people in mind right away. Wow, this is a tremendous opportunity to shine a light on some people I think are doing really great work who should be seen as awesome as I think they are and also seen as inspirational as I think they are.

    CM: How did you come across these craftspeople?

    AB: I was aware of a few of them already, or at least aware of their work. Others, I was presented with a steady stream of people and products of interest and kept my eye open looking for ones that, quite frankly, matched my personal passions, prejudices and enthusiasms. It’s no coincidence that there’s a lot of metal work. Bob Kramer, the Burrow Furnace people, these are dead bang obvious. They’re the kind of tools I used in my career.

    The bookmaker printers I chose (because) I love words as a physical object. Elizabeth Brim, pounding metal with her hands, that’s very interesting to me.

    CM: How long are you here?

    AB: Just overnight. I’ll be back next year . . . We’re going to make a show.

    CM: For Parts Unknown?

    AB: Yes. We promise to disappoint (laughs). We’re going to do something like there will be no barbecue in the show, there will be no Tex-Mex. The standard refrain when we come to a town will be, “That’s not the Houston I know,” which is sort of the point, right? Be prepared to be confused and disappointed.

    We’re toying with the idea of doing an all-Vietnamese show and pretending no one lives here except Vietnamese people. We did an L.A. show with no one in it who wasn’t Korean, and we might go back and do another show L.A. where we pretend no one lives in L.A. but Mexicans.

    Look, there are plenty of people who do shows in Houston. There’s plenty to see, and plenty of awesome stuff. That’s just not the business we're in. We’re not here to do 10 bests or what you should know or give a fair, representative overview. We’re here to do something weird and with our own specific, strange, non-representative agenda. Hopefully, it will be awesome, and hopefully many Houstonians will see it and say, “How did he know about that quirky thing we kept for ourselves?”

    Or we’ll fuck it all up and it will be filled with tourists.

    CM: As part of the promotion for your new comic book, Get Jiro: Blood and Sushi, you’ve been ranting about the way people eat sushi.

    AB: Look, eat sushi however you want. The story that was picked up in an interview (was) about a comic book character who kills people for eating California rolls. So, let’s get the setting. Already it’s a hyperbolic situation. (The story) is "six, absolute, he’ll kill you rules for eating sushi." All I’m saying is this: If you’re in a really good, high end sushi restaurant, where you know, or should know, that the sushi chef spent seven years just working on rice because their master wouldn’t let them touch the fish until they were ready, that it is in your interest to not disrespect them or piss them off.

    Who wants the chef angry or resentful? You want a chef, especially when he’s standing there looking at you and deciding what your next course is going to be based on your reaction to the last, as is done in an omakase menu, you want them happy and feeling well-disposed towards you so that they’ll reach in and pull out all the little goodies that they are keeping for the special customers.

    Sushi chefs will compress the rice differently for people who pick up nigiri with chopsticks or their fingers. Do you want fluffy, perfect rice, or do you want fluffy, slightly less perfect rice? Those are the kinds of decisions sushi chefs make based on your behavior. If the first thing you’re doing is disrespecting their rice by putting a big wad of wasabi in your soy sauce and swishing it around before you even taste their probably already completely perfectly seasoned sushi — it’s in your interest. I mean, above and beyond the politeness aspect.

    I understand people who say, “Well, I’ll eat my sushi any damn way I want. I’m the customer.” Well, yeah, that’s true, but don’t you want the good stuff, man? Don’t you want the best possible experience? You can go to the dentist and drill your own damn teeth, too, but I assume you’d like the dentist to weigh in on what he thinks you should do.

    CM: Do you have similarly strong opinions about the way people eat pasta or tacos?

    AB: Yes (laughs). I’m married to an Italian from Italy, so you can be sure. Yes, I have very strong feelings about the way pasta should be sauced. I do understand that the Italian immigrant tradition; poor southern Italians came over in great numbers to this great land of ours and realized, oh my God, I can afford to put a whole shitload of sauce and giant meatballs the size of your head. This was a pretty fantastic thing.

    Personally, I like properly sauced and cooked pasta, and I have very strong feelings about what makes the best possible bowl of pasta. But I’m sentimental about pasta done quote-unquote wrong. I used to be a real snob about too much red sauce, big, bready meatballs and deep fried veal cutlets. But, you know what, I ate a lot of that as a kid. I’m sentimental about those flavors. I actually do that at home now. I sauce it properly, but I do make meatballs.

    CM: The Carbone guys have had a lot of success with that cuisine.

    The Carbone guys have exposed us for the hideous snobs we are. I have definite ideas. I’m not going to chastise anyone. I’m not going to correct anyone for doing it the way many grateful generations of Italian Americans have been doing it for years and years. There’s a lot to be said for New Jersey Italian. As I get older, that’s what I become nostalgic about.

    Tacos? When you’ve eaten as much great Mexican food in this nation that’s wildly underrated and fantastically accelerating cuisine — the food is getting better and better and better. High-end Mexican restaurants are killing it these days. Chefs all over the world are looking at Mexico. Their street food is amazing. I have a hard time looking at Chili's and Taco Bell without feeling murder in my heart. Especially in Texas, it’s not like you have a shortage of Mexicans or you don’t know where Mexico is.

    Not a big Tex-Mex fan, unless drunk. In which case, it seems like a really, really good idea. I have eaten airport nachos. Just as, if you run out of water for two days you start thinking about killing your neighbor, give me a few hours in an airport and I’m thinking about nacho grande. (laughs)

    CM: What is your Balvenie dram?

    AB: If you ask me tomorrow I may give you a different answer, but I’ve been liking the 21 a lot. It’s the perfect metaphor for this project. Here you had all these good old whiskys, why would you want to mess with them? Everything’s fine, you’re making good money, people will buy it. Why do you want to start making platinum for gold?

    The fact that they did it in the first place is very much in line with the way I like to think. For my TV show, I like to ask my crew, “What is the stupidest, boldest, off the wall thing we can do in the cause of presumed excellence? We’ll probably fail horribly, but let’s try.” The fact that it resulted in something genuinely awesome, I admire that. It’s a bold thing, a high wire act that he pulled off.

    CM: Thank you very much.

    AB: Sure thing.

    Anthony Bourdain was in Houston to tout the Balvenie Rare Craft collection.

    Anthony Bourdain Balvenie
    Photo by Eric Sandler
    Anthony Bourdain was in Houston to tout the Balvenie Rare Craft collection.
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    Notes from a chef

    Globe-trotting Houston chef reviews Noma's $1,500 Los Angeles pop-up

    CultureMap Staff
    Oct 9, 2026 | 4:00 pm
    David Skinner Noma Los Angeles
    Courtesy of David Skinner
    Pink pepper Dungeness crab.

    [Editor’s note: When David Skinner, chef and owner of Kemah’s celebrated eculent and Ishtia restaurants, offered to share his experience eating at one of the world’s best restaurants, we said, of course. Read on for his experience at Copenhagen restaurant Noma’s pop-up in Los Angeles that took place this summer. Take it away, David.]

    The crab was alive a few minutes before I ate it.

    Just before service, the kitchen broke down a Dungeness crab and set it over open charcoal, the downtown Los Angeles skyline behind the smoke. It came to the table wreathed in dried pink pepper branches, with a butter sauce built on the same pepper. I've eaten crab all over the world — this was maybe the best crab ever.

    That was the first of 17 courses at Noma LA, and the best bite of the afternoon. Leading with your best shot is either confidence or a statement. By the end of lunch, I'd decided it was both.

    The residency had begun in turmoil. Founder René Redzepi stepped away from the residency the day it opened, following a news investigation into allegations of demeaning treatment of staff — conduct that had been discussed in industry circles for years. Protesters gathered at the gate that day. The kitchen, led by Pablo Soto, carried on through the residency's close on June 26.

    I went for lunch at the Paramour Estate, the 1920s Mediterranean mansion in Silver Lake that Noma called home for 16 weeks. For more than 30 years, I've traveled the world in search of culture, a little mystery, and always food, eating everywhere from strangers' kitchen tables to three-Michelin-star dining rooms.

    As the chef behind eculent and Ishtia in Kemah, I also eat with a cook's eye — which means I'll tell you what was brilliant and what was oversalted. Noma LA had a little of both, but after a half dozen meals at Noma over the past 10 years, I can say this one was a standout.

    The setup

    The logistics alone are remarkable. Noma relocated roughly 130 staff members and their families to Los Angeles and built a pantry sourced within 300 miles of the mansion. Lunch ran 17 courses over about four hours at $1,500 per person, including beverages and gratuity.

    Chef Soto greeted us at the entrance with the full kitchen staff, a Noma tradition. By the time I arrived, the protesters were long gone, and the brigade seemed to be cooking with a sense of relief.

    Rather than choose between the wine pairing and the nonalcoholic program, we asked our server, Mara, to mix the two course by course. She nailed it, moving from a sparkling rose-and-pink-pepper drink to a bright cherimoya lemonade to a 25-year-old Tony Coturri zinfandel from Glen Ellen that became the table's favorite pour.

    The standouts

    The crab. It opened the meal, and nothing that followed topped it. The pink pepper did double duty with the dried branches perfuming the shell, the butter sauce carrying a gentle heat — the sweet, smoky meat needed nothing else. Alongside came a 2022 Phelan Farm chardonnay from Rajat Parr's Cambria operation: white Burgundy in spirit, California in its bones.

    The cactus. Pickled tacinga cactus, marinated in Oaxacan mezcal and citrus and crowned with honeypot ants, arrived beneath a live cactus paddle with a eucalyptus handle.

    The acorn. A single braised acorn, glazed with black pepper, sat atop an uni custard made with Santa Barbara sea urchin and caviar in hoja santa oil. The server described it as a nod to California's Indigenous peoples. As a Choctaw, whose ancestors relied on acorns for thousands of years, I felt that one. It was also the most technically accomplished savory course of the meal.

    The seaweed and clams. Six varieties of Southern California seaweed with butter-kissed clams tasted like the coast itself. This is Noma at its best: not interpreting California so much as listening to it.

    The tuna eye. I've eaten cod eye at Noma in Copenhagen, but this version was way better. The kitchen removed the tough cornea, replaced it with a thin disk of kumquat, and served the eye chilled inside a ruby-red banana flower bract. Rich and gelatinous, it's eaten in one bite. When our table wondered aloud where the rest of all that tuna goes, Mara had the answer: family meal for the staff.

    The kelp mole. Grilled greens, a squash blossom stuffed with huitlacoche, and an artichoke on its stalk arrived with tortillas from Komal, one of Los Angeles's top heirloom molinos, paired with a mole built on kelp.

    Between the acorn, the cactus, and the mole, a question kept surfacing: what does it mean for a Danish kitchen to arrive in someone else's pantry and cook as though it has always been there? Some of these ingredients have fed Indigenous and Mexican cooks for centuries. Noma handled them with obvious respect and real curiosity. Sometimes, though, the line between homage and borrowing comes down to whether you're willing to say the name out loud.

    Dessert kept the surprises coming, including a macadamia custard served in a sunflower whose base turned out to be beeswax. The finale arrived as a bundle of ferns tied with string. Diners snip it open with tiny scissors to find a chocolate cookie and a fortune inside. Mine quoted Nietzsche: You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.

    Nietzsche, at $1,500 a head, in a Silver Lake mansion, from a kitchen whose founder walked away on opening day while protesters stood at the gate. The kitchen knew exactly what it was doing.

    The full menu, course by course

    For those keeping score, here's the complete lineup.

    Pink pepper Dungeness crab
    Daylily crab dumpling — The rest of the crab, tucked inside a trumpet-shaped daylily with buds plumped in crustacean liquor. The flower dominated; the crab was the reason to eat it.
    Chilled lobster broth — Spiny lobster stock, dashi, and elderflower oil served chilled in the lobster's own coral-colored shell. A palate reset dressed as a course.
    Spot prawn with matcha — Served in real seaweed, the head filled with smoked pumpkin paste for sucking, the tail painted with matcha. Paired with the 2024 Verso from Caleb Leisure in Sebastopol.
    Sea urchin custard and braised acorn
    Cactus with mezcal
    Ragout of California botanicals — Seasonal greens, peas, and herbs in a warm, quiet preparation, tied together by a hint of horseradish.
    SoCal seaweed and clam
    Tuna neck — Minced tuna neck in a koji-inoculated steamed bun with the texture of suede, topped with translucent shards of dried chicken-stock skin. Paired with the 2000 Estate Zinfandel from Tony Coturri.
    Tuna eye
    Black pearl rice steamed in avocado leaf — Ringed with pistachio oil and scattered with dime-sized macadamia slices. Humble ingredients in the spirit of California great Jeremiah Tower.
    Morels with habanero and yuzu — Sierra Nevada morels on turkey-tail mushrooms over hot stones. Bright and spicy, but heavy on the salt.
    Greens and grilled artichoke in spiced kelp mole
    Cherimoya and lemongrass — A green cocoa butter shell shaped like a cactus, hiding a smooth cherimoya ice cream. A California fruit most California menus ignore.
    Macadamia milk custard and pistachio — Topped with heirloom Hong Kong kumquats from a handful of research trees that fruit four weeks a year, served in a beeswax-lined sunflower.
    Silver Lake fortune cookie — A Chiapas chocolate mousse cookie garnished with insects, hidden in a bundle of ferns you cut open with tiny scissors. Fortune included.

    The misses

    Not every course landed. Morels with habanero and yuzu were oversalted, and some presentations were delivered too quietly to catch the full story. At $1,500 a seat, the storytelling should be as confident as the cooking.

    The verdict

    Having now eaten Noma's traveling editions in Tulum and Los Angeles, I'll offer an opinion that may be unpopular in certain circles: the pop-ups are better than Copenhagen. Maybe it's the hunt for new ingredients, or the urgency of a 16-week run in a borrowed house. Whatever the reason, the results are hard to argue with. I put that theory to the test in August, when I returned to Noma on my birthday, three days after it reopened with Soto at the helm. More on that meal soon.

    Noma LA wasn't really a restaurant. It was an argument about a place, made in food, by people who flew 6,000 miles to make it. The argument was frequently brilliant, occasionally presumptuous, and closed with Nietzsche in a fortune cookie. On balance, it won.

    ----

    David Skinner is a James Beard Award semifinalist for Best Chef: Texas and the owner of eculent and Ishtia in Kemah. He also writes the culinary travel journal Destination Eater on Substack.

    David Skinner Noma Los Angeles

    Courtesy of David Skinner

    Pink pepper Dungeness crab.

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