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    Beyond transitions: Orange Is the New Black transgender star finds her own truth

    Joel Luks
    Jan 29, 2014 | 12:45 pm

    "Human beings aren't supposed to live like this."

    The quote is one of Sophia Burset's most memorable lines. The transgender character in the Netflix original series Orange Is the New Black has contributed to transgender actress and advocate Laverne Cox's rise to fame. Sophia's story, a tale of self-acceptance and personal discovery that's a microcosm for anyone who has struggled to fit in within a perplexing set of societal ideals, gleans strength from a universal human condition.

    Are you resilient enough to be yourself?

    "(My mom) is very accepting about my gender identity now, but she wasn't always there. She wants me to be happy and she's proud of this journey I'm on."

    It's fitting that the National Conference on LGBT Equality: Creating Change, held through Sunday at the Hilton Americas-Houston, has invited the noteworthy celebrity to deliver a keynote address on Thursday at 7 p.m. The five-day event, a melange of skill-building workshops, talks, training sessions and networking opportunities, aims to empower the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community with tools to further the task at hand: Full quality, social justice and dignity for all.

    Alongside Cox, the impressive lineup of speakers include National Gay and Lesbian Task Force executive director Rea Carey, AIDS United president and CEO Michael J. Kaplan, Black AIDS Institute president and CEO Phill Wilson, thought leader Charles Stephens and vocalist Nona Hendryx.

    Ahead of Cox's appearance in Houston, CultureMap chatted with her via phone from her residence in New York City. In learning about her experiences, just like Sophia, there's something in the real life of Cox that readily identifies with anyone who's struggled with living his or her own truth.

    CultureMap: I can't help but love Sophia. I sympathize with her story, committing credit card fraud to fund her physical transition. Curious: Do you share anything in common with her character?

    Laverne Cox: I think Sophia and I are good listeners. In her capacity of working as a hair stylist she learns to listen to people well. There’s something nurturing about her as a mother, as a wife. There's something very nurturing about me. We have that in common.

    Before her transition, Sophia was able to pass as a guy in a way that I could never have passed as a man. Sophia is attracted to women and I am not — that's major. I didn't have to break the law to pay for my transition. Her connection with her family is also very real and complicated. I'd say I'm similar in that respect.

    CM: Your twin brother, M. Lamar, played Sophia prior to her transition. You have a close relationship with him. You consider him your moral compass. But was there every tension between the two of you as you embarked on your journey of self discovery?

    LC: Yes! The reality is that my brother, a brilliant artist and a brilliant thinker, is very punk rock with a anti-capitalist vibe. The tension was about being twins, he not wanting to be defined by being a twin. He has his own identity and is not interested in being half of someone else.

    "We are more than our bodies. Trans people are more than their transitions."

    My experiences are not his experiences. Just because we are twins and grew up in the same household — my story is not his story. I love him dearly. At the end of the day, my career aspirations tend to be in conflict with his anti-capitalist, anti-establishment values.

    CM: What about the rest of your family?

    LC: I'm only close to my mom. I've never been close to my extended family — we don't share much in common.

    I'm writing a memoir. Over the Christmas break, my mom was in New York. I did an intense interview with her and asked a lot of questions about my family history that I was afraid to ask. She told me the honest truth about my childhood.

    She's a remarkable woman. She grew up poor in the segregated South in Mobile, Ala. She raised two kids by herself, put herself through school and got a graduate degree. She's smart and self sufficient. She taught me a lot of lessons about being self sufficient, taking care of yourself and survival.

    She's very accepting about my gender identity now, but she wasn't always there. She wants me to be happy and she's proud of this journey I'm on.

    CM: Going to church was a big part of your childhood. Are you religious? Spiritual? How has your life affected your relationship with the practice of religion?

    LC: I am a very spiritual person and I feel like I always have been. I believe that there's a power greater than myself. In this stage of my life, though, I am not a fan of organized religion. Saying that publicly makes me feel like, "oh my goodness, I am turning my back on how I was raised." But I am not.

    A lot of the values I learned from church guide the way I live my life. There's a phrase in the bible, "Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it." I feel like that's the case in my life.

    But I do feel like organized can be oppressive and can be used for reasons that aren't godly. I do believe in God. I pray all the time. I ask for guidance. I feel a connection to a higher being. I feel like I'm here to be of service to God's plan.

    "I believe that love and loving someone is a revolutionary act in and of itself."

    CM: People are generally curious about the surgical process of morphing physically from one gender to another. But you often brush those questions aside. Why do you do that?

    LC: We are more than our bodies. Trans people are more than their transitions. In some of my talks, I look at 60 years of trans representation in the media, especially in the genre of television talk shows. It's been more than 60 years since Christine Jorgensen returned from Europe after her surgery, making her the first famous trans woman in the world.

    The conversation has been about transitions and surgery. It's my deep belief that this conversation objectifies trans people and keeps us in the state of our bodies and not our experience. That can be very dehumanizing.

    Everyone is focused on the transition because they may assume it's the only interesting thing about us. When we tell our own story, the transition may or may not be a part of it. I want to break the cycle of how trans people are represented in the media and take it to a new level, as multi-dimensional human beings and not just miracles of modern medicine — or worse — as we are often presented.

    CM: You once said, "It is a revolutionary act to love a transgender person."

    LC: That was inspired by a book (Black Love is A Revolutionary Act by Umoja). Loving yourself is revolutionary as a trans person as being trans is not something that's being celebrated.

    You are trans and you are beautiful — that's not what I was told. What I was told when I found out about transgender people is that you need to do whatever you can to pass as though you weren't transgender. You don't tell anyone you are trans because you're going to be shunned. The message is that trans isn't beautiful, it's not something to be celebrated, that you aren't deserving of love because you are a transgender person. That's ridiculous. We need love just like everyone else does.

    I said that in the context of what Cornel West said, "Never forget that justice is what love looks like in public." I believe that love and loving someone is a revolutionary act in and of itself. Especially loving people who society says are disposable, people that are looked upon as less that human.

    "Oppression makes us hate ourselves, you internalize the voices of your bullies."

    CM: Sounds oppressive.

    LC: Oppression makes us hate ourselves, you internalize the voices of your bullies. Bullying comes from outside the trans community and also inside the trans community.

    I've been told at different points in my career by trans people that I look like a man, that I sound like a man and that I shouldn't represent the trans community. Loving myself means loving my deep voice, my big hands, loving big feet and being 5 feet, 11 inches in heels and over 6 feet tall in heels. Loving all that stuff about me is revolutionary because it's all beautiful. Differences should be celebrated.

    CM: Are you dating?

    LC: I am still single. I am really busy so dating is really hard. Girl, my schedule is crazy. I do manage to go on dates, but I am not in anything committed — yet.

    I've been very lucky that the last couple of guys whom I've dated have been very sweet and supportive. As a trans woman, most of my dating history included dating men who were ashamed to be seen in public in me. The past few guys I've dated haven't been that way at all. I am not a bad looking chick and I have other lovely qualities that someone should be proud of.

    CM: What do you look for in a man?

    LC: Kindness, support and respect are the three most important things. And I need to be attracted to you. And there needs to be chemistry. And you have to be smart. If you can't have a stimulating conversation, we are not going to work.

    ___

    The National Conference on LGBT Equality "Creating Change" is held at Hilton Americas-Houston from Wednesday through Sunday. Daily admission starts at $125, free for participants ages 16 and under and seniors over 65. Registration is available online.

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    Craig D. Lindsey
    Dec 24, 2025 | 4:30 pm
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    So, Thursday is the big day, when many Houstonians will get together with family and/or friends to celebrate Christmas with presents, egg nog, and a festive meal.

    But that doesn’t mean there still won’t be events popping off this weekend. Some are holiday-related (like Stages’ staging of The Twelve Dates of Christmas and the Nutcracker! Magical Christmas Ballet going down in Sugar Land), while others are just some fun things to do (like watching some college football at NRG Stadium or attending the birthday bash of a local punk legend at Dan Electro’s).

    Whatever you do, just have a holly, jolly time this weekend.

    Thursday, December 25

    Toro Toro presents Christmas Brunch
    Embark on a brunch journey over at Toro Toro this Christmas. Executive chef Jonathan Esparza and his team have prepared an extensive, Christmas brunch buffet menu, featuring a selection of traditional holiday dishes and interactive stations. Brunch is priced at $145 per adult and $65 per child (11 and under; children 5 and under eat free). Dinner will also be served a la carte from 5:30 to 10 pm. 10 am.

    Juliet Steakhouse & Fine Dining presents Holiday Buffet Feast
    Juliet will be serving up a fabulous Christmas Day buffet, priced at $59 for adults and $28 for kids 12 and under (children under 5 dine free). The buffet includes carved-to-order turkey and filet mignon, plus sides such as mashed potatoes, green bean casserole, candied yams, cornbread dressing, mac and cheese, collard greens, dinner rolls, Caesar salad, and lobster bisque. Desserts include peach cobbler, sweet potato pie, and assorted cookies. Noon.

    The Flat presents DJ Sun’s A James Brown Christmas Tribute
    DJ Sun will be giving the gift of funk, with The Flat’s annual James Brown musical tribute. Flash Gordon Parks will also be spinning some cuts written, produced, and/or performed by the hardest-working man in show business. Special holiday cocktails will also be served, so pull up and close out Christmas night the right way: by getting funky with it! 8 pm.

    Friday, December 26

    The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston presents Little Kid Flicks and Big Kid Flicks
    A holiday season favorite at the MFAH, Kid Flicks is a compilation of fun, artful, inspired, and thought-provoking short film compilations presented in partnership with the New York International Children’s Film Festival. These award-winning short films offer a chance to explore new frontiers from around the world, across the street, and the ever-expanding boundaries of our own perspectives. Little Kid Flicks is designed for ages 5 and up. Big Kid Flicks is designed for ages 8 and up. 11:30 am and 2 pm.

    Downtown Houston+ presents Movies Under the Stars: The Fighting Temptations
    As part of their Movies Under the Stars series, Downtown Houston+ will present a screening of the 2003 comedy The Fighting Temptations, where our own Beyoncé Knowles-Carter stars as a talented young singer who helps a childhood friend (Cuba Gooding, Jr.) revive a struggling church choir, at Trebly Park. Visitors are encouraged to grab takeout from a surrounding restaurant and bring their own lawn blanket to enjoy the screening. 6:30 pm.

    Improv Houston presents Marcus D. Wiley
    The son of a preacher, Christian comedian (and former Texas Southern University professor) Marcus D. Wiley's charismatic style of delivery is clean, captivating, funny, and knowledgeable. He provides lots of laughter along with a guaranteed message on being a better you. Earlier this year, Wiley released his third, hour-long special Marriage Is Major Surgery (executive-produced by Houston stand-up star Ali Siddiq) on YouTube. 7:30 and 9:45 pm (7 pm Saturday).

    Stages presents The Twelve Dates of Christmas
    After seeing her fiance kiss another woman at the televised Thanksgiving Day Parade, Mary’s life falls apart — just in time for the holidays. Over the next year, she stumbles back into the dating world. It seems nothing can help Mary’s growing cynicism, until the charm and innocence of a five-year-old boy unexpectedly brings a new outlook on life and love. This heartwarming one-woman play offers a hilarious and modern alternative to the old standards of the holiday season. 7:30 pm (3 and 7:30 pm Saturday; 3 pm Sunday).

    Saturday, December 27

    Wonky Power presents Jazz & Jokes
    A new night of stand-up, cocktails, and live jazz will debut inside one of Houston’s most intimate creative rooms. Jazz & Jokes brings together two of the best live experiences — laughter and live music — curated for a cozy, seated evening at Wonky Power. Featuring a rotating cast of special stand-up comedians from Houston and beyond, paired with a live jazz band setting the mood all night, this night will offer a warm, relaxed atmosphere, great drinks, and a room built for performance. 7 pm.

    Kinder's Texas Bowl: Houston vs. LSU
    The 2025 Kinder's Texas Bowl will feature a matchup between the Houston Cougars of the Big 12 Conference, making its 31st all-time bowl appearance, and the LSU Tigers of the Southeastern Conference. Houston enters the Texas Bowl ranked No. 21 in the College Football Playoff rankings with a 9-3 overall record, its best record since 2021. This will mark the first time the Cougars have played in the Bowl since 2007. 8:15 pm.

    The Garden Theatre presents Cruel Intentions
    Based on the 1999 teen flick, Cruel Intentions: The ’90s Musical pulls audiences into the manipulative world of Manhattan’s most dangerous liaisons: Sebastian Valmont and Kathryn Merteuil. Fueled by revenge and passion, the diabolically charming step-siblings place a bet on whether or not Sebastian can deflower their incoming headmaster’s daughter, Annette Hargrove. The musical features throwback hits by artists like Christina Aguilera, 'NSYNC, and Britney Spears. Through Sunday, January 11. 8 pm (2 and 8 pm Saturday; 2 pm Sunday).

    Goode Co. Armadillo Palace presents Roger Creager Piano Bar
    Award-winning country singer/Texas native Roger Creager will be in town to do a post-Xmas set at Goode Co. Armadillo Palace. With more than a dozen No. 1 singles on the Texas Music Chart and Entertainer of the Year honors from both CMA Texas and the Texas Music Awards, Creager brings a mix of road-tested songwriting and bold melodies. Dine on authentic Texas fare, including signature house favorites the Damn Goode Burger and the Damn Goode Margarita. 9 pm.

    Sunday, December 28

    Dan Electro’s presents J.R.’s Birthday Bash
    Houston punk pioneer (and all-around good guy) J.R. Delgado has been a member of multiple punk, hardcore and garage rock bands. He was also the owner of the legendary rock club The Axiom in the late ‘80s and early ‘90s. This weekend, he’lll be celebrating his 70th birthday at Dan Electro’s, and he’ll be having a free throwdown everyone is invited to. Hickoids, Jane Woe, and Bastard Union will be providing the live jams, while DJ LP will be spinning music all day. 1 pm.

    Nutcracker! Magical Christmas Ballet
    |Over at Smart Financial Centre in Sugar Land, Nutcracker! Magical Christmas Ballet will highlight an international cast and Ukrainian principal artists performing at the peak of classical European ballet. Audiences will be transported by the magic of jaw-dropping acrobatics, larger-than-life puppets, and hand-crafted sets and costumes. Share the tradition of pure holiday magic and Tchaikovsky’s timeless score with friends and family of all ages. 3 pm.

    Arthouse Houston presents Hedwig and the Angry Inch with John Cameron Mitchell
    Arthouse Houston will present a one-night-only event of Hedwig and the Angry Inch, with star/creator John Cameron Mitchell. The 2001 indie musical classic (based on Mitchell’s off-Broadway play) follows Hedwig, an East Berliner transplant and lead singer in a band, who is chasing down his ex for stealing his songs. The screening will be accompanied by a live director's commentary by Mitchell, and followed by a live music set led by Mitchell, with band members Amber Martin and Chapman Welch. (Read CultureMap’s exclusive interview with Mitchell here.) 7:30 pm.

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    Nutcracker! Magical Christmas Ballet will perform in Sugar Land this weekend.

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