well when crosby stills n nash came out wioh their first album in 69 three of us in neightborbood akron ohio bought yamahga guitars, that was the start and it never ended. its what i wanrted to do before i was cooking ireally did think i was going to be a musician was heading that way enjoyed it alway s loved playing, the excirtment, then i kinda changed my mind when i discovered wheat real cookign was about

it never really ended all through school i had bands and jammed and played by myself, its just i love it.

always into the la country sounds srtemming from buffalo springfield, byrds, grand parsons , flying buttiro broithers, not so mucy the sound coming out of nashviolle but the la country that had a little buijt of rock to it, better words, i could identify with it. i like it, wevce kinda developed our own sound around that feeling.

that was many many moons ago before the middle 80s about 83, 84, we were deeloping sw cuisine and a lafy by the name of ann greer kinda saw what was going on writer cosultants for cookbooks, restaurants, so what robert was doing , pyles, what i was abner at the mansionagnew's american restaurant north of dallas... she said why dont we band together as a group doijng to sw cuisine and maybe we'll be picked up more march forward with new style of cuisine and she was right

we started doing dinbners together around the country

robert anmdi got together and i had no idea he played guitar. at a birthday party in early 30s everybody at stonelight tea, and old bar up here in dallas, i was talking to mimi, what does he do? he plays that damn guitar. what kind of guitar? made in pennsylcvania or something. ran over to robert across the room you have a martin guitar? so when we were traveling we brought our guitar

we called it the room service tour nobody ate better room serive than us, 30 people, 11 room service carts. therse are the days when you could sign it all off, ifd go back to the mansion and turn in a $700 bill for room service, robert and i would be platying eveyone would be singing, stephen pyle when to school for voice lessons. it was amazong

as time went on other schefs woulf bring their guitars so its become a giant jam session wed have guitars, base players, drummers on anything in the room that could make a beat, we were having fun wioth it.

we'd play at all the food events after cooking together. we all disbanded on trhe sw thing exceot for robert and i so we started our own tour, it was always robet and i, we'd do a dinner, you name it, if they wanted us and wed get a lot of publicirty but the music thing became a side deel. we went to meals on wheels in la with wolfgang and hes be like dont forget to bring your guitars, so we played.

around 2000 there was a turn we started getting really serious. i said to robert, we should write our own stuff. we played everybody else music for 20 yewars, why not do our own? youer such a good eriter you write the lyrics ill write the music, and a couple weeks liater he handed it to me and said heres our first sogng.

played back and forth to even other over the phone

johnny reno fmaous sax player. all the musicians now aer big food and wine guys. he lives in fw and started coming to alot of my cooking classes, i couldnt believe johnny reno ive seen a hunfred times was it neredtd in my cooking, we got to be friends, and he said, hey let me bring my sax andf eventually said heyu let me bring my band and well be your band, 2003, so his band started to be the barbwires, startied writing abo=nch of muisc

sais you need to get into studio, in 07, biss and blisters

weve always recoreded, even when we were a copy bandm, recording made you better bc you can go back and listen to it. always strict on rehearsals. never had more fun playing the same song. i think robert and i love the fact that we know if we work at it we get better. when the first album came out wed worked really hard and it showed when we played live, we were tight with the band and each other, it was amazing that we were that good, it was kinda a reveltoin. wed been good at the other part of our lives... we made this new noodle dish at lunch tweaking it plutting it on menu tomorrow its really good, its like, wow, that doesnt sound bad, pracftice up in cookign and in music.

thats probably why we dont play enough, its tough for us to get together, high powerewd jobs this coolkking thing isnt easy either, everything has to be planned out, but when we do get together its a blasty, it has been for 25 years.

we both know 100s of cooks but we dont know too many cooks that play like us, we're kinda like a unique couple. we tsalk about alot with our chef buddies, i think a full chef album would be fun. a lot of honorary barbwaoire, norman van aiken plays harmonica, tim keating is a greatr vocalist with us, we played for tears with tim, jow abuzo has played bass, mickey raphael with willie nelson the harmonica player, when we catch up with him thats great. steve winwood, wynonna, richie furee, hjimmy messina, its fun bc all these people are boig foodies, j d sala, its real fun bx then it takes a eholw other level.

i can die peacefully now, i played with all my idols.

we drive our wives craxy bc we play the song about 100 times, if someone is in the house we have to go out to garage, we see it getting tioghter getting better real reheasrsalc stamina