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Turrell Sees The Light

Acclaimed artist James Turrell explains how he sees the light in wide-ranging inteview

Tarra Gaines
Sep 29, 2014 | 10:26 am

Attempting to conduct a interview with the master of light, James Turrell, is a bit like trying to capture sunlight in your hand. No matter how focused the questions, the answers are going to spill through your fingers illuminating everything else in the room.

Sailing, airport security, football and the simple joy of ordering vanilla ice cream with waffles — along with his art, of course — were among the subjects Turrell covered during a recent breakfast interview at the Houston Hilton-Americas. Turrell gained a titanium knee last year, which he lamented adds time going through security during his many travels to Europe and Asia for his commissions, but does make the 71-year-old more agile on his boat. Some of his recent excursions have been to Austin where has taken an interest in UT football while working on projects.

After the breadth of topics we touched on, I realized when we finally turned to his art and Turrell said he was always interested in the “full light spectrum,” he could as easily have said the full life spectrum.

After the breadth of topics we touched on, I realized when we turned to his art and Turrell said he was always interested in the “full light spectrum,” he could as easily have said the full life spectrum.

Turrell comes to Houston several times a year, and he's known this city so long that he still speaks fondly of the Oilers under Bum Phillips' reign. Last week, he was back for a Hiram Butler Gallery show of prints created from his Guggenheim installation, Aten Reign, one of the three major exhibitions of his work in 2013 including James Turrell: A Retrospective at the Los Angeles Country Museum of Art and The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston’s The Light Inside.

In profiles, he’s been described using Santa Claus imagery, no doubt because of the robust white beard. But if I’d never experienced Turrell’s work firsthand, or first eyes, at the Live Oak Friends Meeting House, The Light Inside tunnel at the MFAH or sat gazing in meditative surprise at the radical vision of the Houston sky framed by Twilight Epiphany at Rice, and just knew of his work through online images and Wikipedia, I might have a vastly different perspective on the man.

Let’s be honest, the Skyspaces spaced across the globe; the Perceptual Cells that enclose and then inundate individual viewers with blasts of light so strong they can see the interior of their own eyes; and most of all, his own private, extinct volcano that he’s been tunneling and carving for 40 years in order to shape nature’s most powerful force, light, to his will; all these “works” might seem less an indication of one of the most innovated artists in the world and more a description of the most awesome Bond villain ever.

But after talking with Turrell for an hour, I think I can safely judge that if he did manage to take over the world from his volcano lair, he’d probably just decree that we do away with Daylight Savings Time (“It’s like people who are always late so they set their watch 15 minutes ahead and they’re still late. So we can get up and move anytime we want but to change the clock is ridiculous because it has to do with the rotation of the Earth.”) and then leave us to our own devices, as long as we take time to contemplate the light.

A Rare Exhibition

While not unprecedented, a Turrell show of prints is somewhat unusual for an artist who found his medium early: “Basically I always work the light.”

So why attempt to distill distinct moments in a 60-minute light sequence that illuminated the interior of the Guggenheim into aquatint and woodcut relief printing?

Turrell acknowledged with a chuckle what he asks from collectors. “I need a place that’s larger than your living room, and maybe you should buy the property next door. If it doesn’t sell like hotcakes whose fault is it?”

One reason seems to be pragmatic. Turrell acknowledged with a chuckle what he asks from collectors. “I need a place that’s larger than your living room, and maybe you should buy the property next door. If it doesn’t sell like hotcakes whose fault is it?”

“I haven’t made the things that help give you access to my work, the normal things of art: prints, photos, drawings, things like that. Now I’m beginning to fill that out so you can a little bit more of a piece of me easily and not have to buy a big space,” Turrell explained, adding that the process of turning light into print has given him something as well. “It allowed me to believe in the traditions of art. I didn’t want the object. I didn’t want the painting or the sculpture. I wanted the light. That sort of ran against the traditions of art.”

When I saw the show a day before my meeting with Turrell these frozen images of light on paper, light for light’s own sake, felt very familiar, both cosmic and subatomic.

When I asked Turrell if my seeing a galaxy and atom in the same print seemed true to him, he launched us into tales of Tycho Brahe, Johannes Kepler and Turrell's own continuing relationship with the ellipse.

“Nature loves the ellipse. It’s a beautiful form and it’s something I’ve always enjoyed working with,” he described and then gave some insight into that great life-long work. “The [Roden] Crater is in the form of the ellipse. The top of it is not a circle. It’s actually slightly elliptical, and so I had to do a lot of work with ellipses in making something that looked natural in the form of a volcano.”

Light and Time

Bringing us back to the Hiram Butler exhibition, I had to ask about the arrangement of the prints which partially depict the color transformation in Aten Reign. Many of his installations, including The Light Inside, Twilight Epiphany and The Color Inside at UT Austin put viewers through a changing color spectrum, in a way bringing time into relationship with the light. I asked him if timing light within these Skyspaces creates a story.

“Well, it has a narrative. It does take you through that. This is not art without content. It’s without literal content, yes, but music also is without literal content.”

But sometimes these timed light stories we experience don’t linger vividly forever, because we “forget the color. We don’t remember color very long,” Turrell says, and so perhaps even the master of light must then come back full circle — or full ellipse — to traditional art of light as color on paper.
James Turrell: From the Guggenheim runs until Oct. 1 at Hiram Butler Gallery.

James Turrell with Skyscape (file photo).

James Turrell, Skyscape, May 2012
Photo by © Michelle Watson CatchLightGroup.com
James Turrell with Skyscape (file photo).
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Best July Theater

Miller Outdoor Theatre reopens and 7 more performance debuts for July

Tarra Gaines
Jul 2, 2026 | 10:30 am
​Broadway at the Hobby Center presents Moulin Rouge!
Photo by Matthew Murphy and Evan Zimmerman for MurphyMade
Broadway at the Hobby Center presents Moulin Rouge!

Houston theaters have some cool treats this month to sooth that summer heat. Lots of intimate cabaret and comic theater makes this month's must-see list, and many of these shows come with a full drinks menu. Broadway at Hobby invites Houstonians to the hottest party in town at the Moulin Rouge.

The Gilbert & Sullivan Society floats audiences through Venice, while the Alley chills people with a cinematic styled murder mystery. Houston will also celebrate a summer of live performing arts as Miller Outdoor Theatre reopens.

Feelin’ Groovy from Music Box Theatre (now through August 15)
The Music Box fabulous five — Rebekah Dahl, Brad Scarborough, Luke Wrobel, Cay Taylor, and Kristina Sullivan plus their live band — tend to spend summers reminiscing on love by showcasing some of the best tunes of the 60s and 70s. Interwoven with banter and comedy skits, they’ll sing classics from a multitude of musical genres of that era, including rock, country, R&B, and maybe even get down with some disco. Ride the groovy vibe with hits like, “Natural Woman,” “Taking it to the Streets,” “Heartache Tonight," ”Touch Me in the Morning," “Soul Man,” “Wichita Lineman,” and “He Ain’t Heavy.”

Drunk Pirates from Drunk Shakespeare Society (now through September)
The boozy Bard takes a break this summer as the Drunk Shakespeare players instead set sail to dig up buried theatrical booty in this adaptation of Robert Louis Stevenson’s Treasure Island. The real rum will flow as each night one of the cast members drinks five shots before attempting to perform one of the main characters. Pirate chaos ensues as the rest of the cast tries to keep the story going. The show becomes interactive, with no two nights the same, and some of the audience might have to walk the plank at stage-sword point. With drinks and cocktails available for order and an evening of laughs, maybe the real treasure is the pirate friends we made along the way.

Miller Outdoor Theatre Reopens at Hermann Park
A summer filled with performing arts for all ages is back with the reopening of Miller Outdoor Theatre. The Houston institution has had a very busy few years. First, it celebrated its centennial anniversary season, and then it closed last year for some needed renovations, including backstage improvements for the artists and crews. The venue's Gateway Plaza Project revitalized the northeast side of the park, as well as upgrades and repairs to the plaza picnic area.

While rain in June postponed the grand opening celebration of the Ting Tsung and Wei Fong Chao Foundation Plaza, the theatre and grounds are now open just in time for many of the summer programming Houstonians love, including the Houston Symphony series, beginning with the Star-Spangled Salute 4th of July concert with fireworks, the annual Shakespeare Festival, international music, dance performances, and children’s theater programming.

Broadway and Beyond: From Opening Nights to Encores at Stages (July 9-26)
Musical theater artist Holland Vavra has been a longtime audiences favorite on stages throughout the city, and especially at Stages where she’s been part of 29 shows over the years. She’s also sailed the seas as a featured performer with Celebrity Cruises.

Now, for her 30th production at Stages, she’s created this special cabaret show to highlight through songs some of the productions, collaborators, and experiences that have defined her career. The company crew will also transform the Levit theater space into an intimate cabaret setting with table seating, cocktails, and of course, a live band.

Bachelor Pad Royale-An Ultra Lounge Cabaret from Paul Hope Cabarets (July 13-27)
For eight seasons, Paul Hope and his array of veteran performers have reenergized the American songbook in a cabaret setting. Though the shows usually have strong Broadway themes, when the days heat up, Paul Hope Cabaret chills out with their annual summer Ultra Lounge menu of mid-century tunes.

This July, order a cocktail with a twist of intrigue as the night features James Bond movie standards like “Diamonds Are Forever," "From Russia With Love," and "You Only Live Twice," plus other mod and sexy tunes like "These Boots Are Made for Walkin,” “Mona Lisa,” and “Windmills of Your Mind.” Paul Hope hosts as always with a stellar crooning cast including Jake Cummings, Brad Goertz, Pantelis Karastamatis, Lauren Salazar, Laura Smolik, Tamara Siler, and Whitney Zangarine, with music director, Jerry Atwood.

Moulin Rouge! presented by Broadway at the Hobby Center (July 14-19)
People who can-can-can’t resist a good medley or mashup song will enjoy this dazzling musical. Broadway at the Hobby Center takes a final bow on its 2025-2026 season with an encore presentation of this musical based on the 2001 Baz Luhrmann movie.

Filled with just as many blazing colors as the original film, the live stage version follows a doomed love story set in 1880s Paris. Composer, Christian, falls for jaded and sickly showgirl, Satine, in the bohemian wonderland of the Moulin Rouge. While their love may not be able to overcome villains, prejudice, and consumption, they do make beautiful music together.

The show takes jukebox musicals to new heights as each number packs an ever expanding selection of beloved songs across a century of songwriting. While classic pop songs like “Nature Boy” and “Your Song” shine as singles, The “Elephant Love Medley” alone encompasses pieces of almost twenty songs.

The Gondoliers from Gilbert & Sullivan Society (July 18-26)
To celebrate its 75th anniversary, Houston’s Gilbert & Sullivan Society goes back to the beginning with this favorite G&S opera they originally produced in 1952. In this melodious and convoluted comic tale, two Venetian gondolier brothers find out that one is an adopted long lost prince though nobody is sure which is which. Multiple brides and extra would-be queens are also vying for thrones.

With many chaotic twists to a happy ending, Gilbert and Sullivan also get many satirical jabs at royalty, snobbery, and, strangely enough, limit liability companies of the era. Houston native and New York–based director, Alyssa Weathersby, who also helmed last year’s acclaimed Iolanthe, returns to direct. In a statement about the show, Weathersby describes a production that “embraces a playful aesthetic that overlays the other visual elements, like Venetian structures and Spanish dance styles.”

The Girl on the Train at Alley Theatre (July 24-August 30)
The Alley kicks off its 80th season with a contemporary twist on its beloved Summer Chills tradition. Instead of a classic Agatha Christie or Sherlock Holmes murder mystery of past summers, audiences are invited to climb aboard this thrilling stage version of the best-selling novel by Paula Hawkins turned blockbuster film.

With most of the resident actors in the mix, the story follows Rachel, a divorced woman struggling with alcohol addiction who takes the same train everyday as she tries to put the pieces of her life back together. But a missing woman and the everyday domestic dramas she sees from the train window might just take her on a deadly journey that forces her to confront her past.

\u200bBroadway at the Hobby Center presents Moulin Rouge!

Photo by Matthew Murphy and Evan Zimmerman for MurphyMade

Broadway at the Hobby Center presents Moulin Rouge!

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