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    The CultureMap Interview

    With lavish new steakhouse and a new title, Houston's King of Meat shoots for nation's top spot

    Eric Sandler
    Nov 19, 2015 | 11:06 am

    Houston's king of meat has a new castle.

    On Monday, Ronnie Killen opened the new outpost of his eponymous Killen's Steakhouse. Rather than sign a lease, the chef and his business partner Deanna Killen reportedly paid $2 million to purchase the former Malibu Steak & Seafood outright. At 12,500-square feet, it's roughly three times the size of the original location. Between the main dining room, the wine room, a private dining room, the bar and an outside patio, the new Killen's Steakhouse will be able to accommodate over 400 people at once — although they'll build to that number slowly.

    "It’s going to be the restaurant that I’ve always wanted but, one, could never afford and, two . . . we have space to do really nice dishes," Killen tells CultureMap.

    Even a cursory look shows that no expense has been spared on the renovations. Changes include all new kitchen equipment, a 1200-bottle wine tower in the center of the dining room, private wine lockers and exterior landscaping. Renovations to the bar include the installation of 20 taps and a marble bar top. Killen says he spent $40,000 just on new broilers.

    Still to come: the installation of a dry aging cabinet that will bring Killen's more closely into line with places like Pappas Bros and B&B Butchers and renovations to the private, 10-seat dining room that has its own entrance from the parking lot. Unofficially, it's for Killen's friend JJ Watt, but fellow Pearland resident Bun B might find it to his liking as well.

    After spending the last two years building a barbecue business that the Food Network ranked as among the top five in America, Killen says he’s ready to put his chef jacket on and “put the Killen back in Killen’s Steakhouse” by reclaiming the title of executive chef. Joining him in the kitchen are Joe Cervantez, who came to Killen's from Brennan's last year, and Chris Loftis, who comes back to Killen's after a stint as the executive chef at Number 13 in Galveston. The chef alluded to other hires on the way for both front and back of the house, including a pastry chef, but he's waiting until the people are officially on board before making any announcements.

    All of this work has been done with the goal of further raising the profile of a steakhouse that's been surprisingly adept at attracting national attention despite its Pearland location. Thrillist, Open Table, The Daily Meal, Travel + Leisure and other publications all rank it among the country's best places for meat. Still, Killen has a very specific goal in mind for how he wants his restaurant to be perceived.

    "We’ve always ranged in the top 10 steakhouses, but I’m shooting for No. 1," Killen says. "I don’t want to be fifth anymore."

    After a tour of the new space, Killen sat down to discuss a variety of topics including his plans to convert the now former steakhouse into a burger joint, his budding celebrity status and those pesky rumors that he still has his eye on opening something inside the Loop.

    CultureMap: What does it mean that you’re putting the Killen back in Killen’s Steakhouse?

    Ronnie Killen: Because of the money invested in this place, I’m going to be the executive chef . . . I’m really excited about getting back into wearing a chef’s jacket. It’s going to be fun.

    Being such a big restaurant, I’ve got to develop the culture that I want and what we stand for and how we’re going to do it. Instill those things into the guys who work here. Some may be on board. Some may not be on board, but we’re going to have the best team we can here.

    That’s the first thing people are going to say: a bigger establishment, the quality of the food drops. My expectation is to be better than we were. We’re going to.

    I don’t say that very often. Well, I do make bold statements (laughs). I’m very confident about it. With the team we’ve put together and all the work we’ve put into it, this place is going to be good.

    CM: Are you at the stopped in the grocery store level of celebrity yet?

    RK: Oh yeah, I get pictures. I was at the Texans-New Orleans games, and I had people stopping me to take pictures. I had somebody in New York go, You’re Ronnie Killen, can we get a picture? Something like that is really neat. It’s exciting to see that the hard work and everything I’ve put into what I enjoy doing is paying off and you’re getting that recognition. It’s been a long road.

    CM: I think about how far you've come since I met you at the fried chicken throwdown in 2009.

    RK: It took awhile for us to get noticed and for people to taste our food. It’s fun, because I’m doing what I love doing. I’m getting ready to get back into chef jackets. That’s very exciting to me.

    CM: Are those expectations why you're resuming more day-to-day responsibilities at the restaurant?

    RK: I’m not saying anything negative about the people we have working here, but my name is on the front. I’m not just going to give the keys away to the Bentley to anybody to drive (laughs). I have to make sure we’re all in the same boat.

    CM: What’s the status of the burger joint?

    RK: We have the renderings. We basically have all the architecture. We have a construction crew here. As soon we get open, we’re going to the burger joint at the old steakhouse.

    That’s something I’m excited about, too. As far as burgers, it’s going to be something no one’s ever done. That’s the way I look at it is eliminating competition by why you do. It’s going to be a special place also.

    CM: How much recipe development have you done?

    RK: We’ve been looking at different grinds of meats, how textures are involved in burgers. I’ve been to several different places to try out their products and see what they’re doing and what works and what’s good.

    With the burger place, we want to have about five grinders going at all times. If somebody says, I want brisket, beef rib, bacon. We’re going to take it and grind it right there for them. It’s something no one’s doing. I think it will be hard to do, but if you have everything ready, if your mis en place is ready, you have the meats cut, cubed, ready to drop into it, I don’t see why it couldn’t happen. We’ll have some basic blends if somebody can’t decide, (and they) are pretty outstanding.

    CM: Do you think opening a restaurant inside the Loop is still a possibility?

    RK: I’m talking to somebody right now. I have a meeting (Friday) morning.

    CM: Is it Ricky Craig?

    RK: Ricky’s vision and what Ricky wants to do is great. I was really excited about the possibility of working with him. We were looking at a lease across the street where we were going to park. Then, they sold the property. It kind of squished that, because I didn’t want to get into a place and have the same problem that everybody in the Heights has with parking. The building that we were going to build was going to take up almost the whole boundaries of the property. I couldn’t let it be an emotional decision to do it. It was a smart business decision not to.

    I know Ricky was upset that we didn’t do it, but I have to look out for my brand and make sure it’s protected. You can have the best food in the world, but if you don’t have a place to park, it doesn’t mean anything.

    I’ve got a place right now that I’m looking at. They’re going to start construction on it in February. We’re looking at about an 18 month deal. This place is going to be a hybrid of the barbecue place and the burger place. It’s going to be table service. We’re going to try to brew our own beer.

    It’s going to be something that’s really cool. The architect who did the Pearl Brewery in San Antonio is doing this place.

    Portions of this interview have been edited for length and clarity.

    The wine room features a brick ceiling.

    Killen's Steakhouse new location
    Photo by Eric Sandler
    The wine room features a brick ceiling.
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    Notes from a chef

    Globe-trotting Houston chef reviews Noma's $1,500 Los Angeles pop-up

    CultureMap Staff
    Oct 9, 2026 | 4:00 pm
    David Skinner Noma Los Angeles
    Courtesy of David Skinner
    Pink pepper Dungeness crab.

    [Editor’s note: When David Skinner, chef and owner of Kemah’s celebrated eculent and Ishtia restaurants, offered to share his experience eating at one of the world’s best restaurants, we said, of course. Read on for his experience at Copenhagen restaurant Noma’s pop-up in Los Angeles that took place this summer. Take it away, David.]

    The crab was alive a few minutes before I ate it.

    Just before service, the kitchen broke down a Dungeness crab and set it over open charcoal, the downtown Los Angeles skyline behind the smoke. It came to the table wreathed in dried pink pepper branches, with a butter sauce built on the same pepper. I've eaten crab all over the world — this was maybe the best crab ever.

    That was the first of 17 courses at Noma LA, and the best bite of the afternoon. Leading with your best shot is either confidence or a statement. By the end of lunch, I'd decided it was both.

    The residency had begun in turmoil. Founder René Redzepi stepped away from the residency the day it opened, following a news investigation into allegations of demeaning treatment of staff — conduct that had been discussed in industry circles for years. Protesters gathered at the gate that day. The kitchen, led by Pablo Soto, carried on through the residency's close on June 26.

    I went for lunch at the Paramour Estate, the 1920s Mediterranean mansion in Silver Lake that Noma called home for 16 weeks. For more than 30 years, I've traveled the world in search of culture, a little mystery, and always food, eating everywhere from strangers' kitchen tables to three-Michelin-star dining rooms.

    As the chef behind eculent and Ishtia in Kemah, I also eat with a cook's eye — which means I'll tell you what was brilliant and what was oversalted. Noma LA had a little of both, but after a half dozen meals at Noma over the past 10 years, I can say this one was a standout.

    The setup

    The logistics alone are remarkable. Noma relocated roughly 130 staff members and their families to Los Angeles and built a pantry sourced within 300 miles of the mansion. Lunch ran 17 courses over about four hours at $1,500 per person, including beverages and gratuity.

    Chef Soto greeted us at the entrance with the full kitchen staff, a Noma tradition. By the time I arrived, the protesters were long gone, and the brigade seemed to be cooking with a sense of relief.

    Rather than choose between the wine pairing and the nonalcoholic program, we asked our server, Mara, to mix the two course by course. She nailed it, moving from a sparkling rose-and-pink-pepper drink to a bright cherimoya lemonade to a 25-year-old Tony Coturri zinfandel from Glen Ellen that became the table's favorite pour.

    The standouts

    The crab. It opened the meal, and nothing that followed topped it. The pink pepper did double duty with the dried branches perfuming the shell, the butter sauce carrying a gentle heat — the sweet, smoky meat needed nothing else. Alongside came a 2022 Phelan Farm chardonnay from Rajat Parr's Cambria operation: white Burgundy in spirit, California in its bones.

    The cactus. Pickled tacinga cactus, marinated in Oaxacan mezcal and citrus and crowned with honeypot ants, arrived beneath a live cactus paddle with a eucalyptus handle.

    The acorn. A single braised acorn, glazed with black pepper, sat atop an uni custard made with Santa Barbara sea urchin and caviar in hoja santa oil. The server described it as a nod to California's Indigenous peoples. As a Choctaw, whose ancestors relied on acorns for thousands of years, I felt that one. It was also the most technically accomplished savory course of the meal.

    The seaweed and clams. Six varieties of Southern California seaweed with butter-kissed clams tasted like the coast itself. This is Noma at its best: not interpreting California so much as listening to it.

    The tuna eye. I've eaten cod eye at Noma in Copenhagen, but this version was way better. The kitchen removed the tough cornea, replaced it with a thin disk of kumquat, and served the eye chilled inside a ruby-red banana flower bract. Rich and gelatinous, it's eaten in one bite. When our table wondered aloud where the rest of all that tuna goes, Mara had the answer: family meal for the staff.

    The kelp mole. Grilled greens, a squash blossom stuffed with huitlacoche, and an artichoke on its stalk arrived with tortillas from Komal, one of Los Angeles's top heirloom molinos, paired with a mole built on kelp.

    Between the acorn, the cactus, and the mole, a question kept surfacing: what does it mean for a Danish kitchen to arrive in someone else's pantry and cook as though it has always been there? Some of these ingredients have fed Indigenous and Mexican cooks for centuries. Noma handled them with obvious respect and real curiosity. Sometimes, though, the line between homage and borrowing comes down to whether you're willing to say the name out loud.

    Dessert kept the surprises coming, including a macadamia custard served in a sunflower whose base turned out to be beeswax. The finale arrived as a bundle of ferns tied with string. Diners snip it open with tiny scissors to find a chocolate cookie and a fortune inside. Mine quoted Nietzsche: You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.

    Nietzsche, at $1,500 a head, in a Silver Lake mansion, from a kitchen whose founder walked away on opening day while protesters stood at the gate. The kitchen knew exactly what it was doing.

    The full menu, course by course

    For those keeping score, here's the complete lineup.

    Pink pepper Dungeness crab
    Daylily crab dumpling — The rest of the crab, tucked inside a trumpet-shaped daylily with buds plumped in crustacean liquor. The flower dominated; the crab was the reason to eat it.
    Chilled lobster broth — Spiny lobster stock, dashi, and elderflower oil served chilled in the lobster's own coral-colored shell. A palate reset dressed as a course.
    Spot prawn with matcha — Served in real seaweed, the head filled with smoked pumpkin paste for sucking, the tail painted with matcha. Paired with the 2024 Verso from Caleb Leisure in Sebastopol.
    Sea urchin custard and braised acorn
    Cactus with mezcal
    Ragout of California botanicals — Seasonal greens, peas, and herbs in a warm, quiet preparation, tied together by a hint of horseradish.
    SoCal seaweed and clam
    Tuna neck — Minced tuna neck in a koji-inoculated steamed bun with the texture of suede, topped with translucent shards of dried chicken-stock skin. Paired with the 2000 Estate Zinfandel from Tony Coturri.
    Tuna eye
    Black pearl rice steamed in avocado leaf — Ringed with pistachio oil and scattered with dime-sized macadamia slices. Humble ingredients in the spirit of California great Jeremiah Tower.
    Morels with habanero and yuzu — Sierra Nevada morels on turkey-tail mushrooms over hot stones. Bright and spicy, but heavy on the salt.
    Greens and grilled artichoke in spiced kelp mole
    Cherimoya and lemongrass — A green cocoa butter shell shaped like a cactus, hiding a smooth cherimoya ice cream. A California fruit most California menus ignore.
    Macadamia milk custard and pistachio — Topped with heirloom Hong Kong kumquats from a handful of research trees that fruit four weeks a year, served in a beeswax-lined sunflower.
    Silver Lake fortune cookie — A Chiapas chocolate mousse cookie garnished with insects, hidden in a bundle of ferns you cut open with tiny scissors. Fortune included.

    The misses

    Not every course landed. Morels with habanero and yuzu were oversalted, and some presentations were delivered too quietly to catch the full story. At $1,500 a seat, the storytelling should be as confident as the cooking.

    The verdict

    Having now eaten Noma's traveling editions in Tulum and Los Angeles, I'll offer an opinion that may be unpopular in certain circles: the pop-ups are better than Copenhagen. Maybe it's the hunt for new ingredients, or the urgency of a 16-week run in a borrowed house. Whatever the reason, the results are hard to argue with. I put that theory to the test in August, when I returned to Noma on my birthday, three days after it reopened with Soto at the helm. More on that meal soon.

    Noma LA wasn't really a restaurant. It was an argument about a place, made in food, by people who flew 6,000 miles to make it. The argument was frequently brilliant, occasionally presumptuous, and closed with Nietzsche in a fortune cookie. On balance, it won.

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    David Skinner is a James Beard Award semifinalist for Best Chef: Texas and the owner of eculent and Ishtia in Kemah. He also writes the culinary travel journal Destination Eater on Substack.

    David Skinner Noma Los Angeles

    Courtesy of David Skinner

    Pink pepper Dungeness crab.

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