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    The CultureMap Interview

    The most erotic American film in years? Black Swan director reveals all

    Joe Leydon
    Nov 14, 2010 | 6:04 am
    • "Black Swan" doesn't fit into any of the typical Hollywood boxes.
    • Natalie Portman doesn't hold back in the highly-charged "Black Swan."
    • Black Swan gets a Cinema Arts moment Sunday.

    So what is Darren Aronofsky’s Black Swan — the Cinema Arts Festival Houston showcased film set to screen 4:15 p.m. Sunday at the Edwards Greenway Palace Stadium — all about?

    Well, like Pi, his 1998 breakthrough indie feature, Aronofsky’s Black Swan is a drama about an obsessive protagonist poised on the brink of madness while pursuing perfection. Like Requiem for a Dream (2000), the director's critically acclaimed sophomore effort, Aronofsky’s latest film focuses on the desperate frenzy of a character whose fantasies are intruding on reality. And like The Wrestler (2008), his sentimentally gritty tale of a has-been grappler who repeatedly returns to the ring, Aronofsky’s much buzzed-about drama about a ballerina who gets in touch with her dark side is the story of an artist who quite literally suffers for the sake of art.

    “Of course,” Aronofsky admits, “the big difference — the really interesting difference — is that one is about the highest art on the planet, and the other is about the lowest. In fact, most people wouldn’t even call wrestling an art. And yet the people who do that, the athletes who do that, sacrifice their physicality for their art. So I think there’s definitely a connection between those two films.”

    Actually, one could argue that all of Aronofsky’s films are connected, in that each one — even The Fountain (2006), the Brooklyn-born auteur’s phantasmagorical romance — is about a kind of madness. In the case of Black Swan, the discombobulation begins when Nina Sayers, a sexually repressed ballerina played by Natalie Portman, lands the plum assignment of performing the lead role in a New York City dance company’s production of Swan Lake.

    Relentlessly driven by her ex-ballerina mother (Barbara Hershey) and her own barely contained demons, Nina pushes herself to physical and emotional extremes to prepare for the role.

    But her efforts are not quite enough for choreographer Thomas Leroy (Vincent Cassel), who insists that Nina, a dead-solid perfect choice to convey the innocence of the White Swan, must somehow also find a way to master the other side of the role. That is, she must convey the dark sensuality of the Black Swan as persuasively and expressively as… as… well, as Lily (Mila Kunis), a new dancer with the troupe who’s trying maybe a little too hard to be Nina’s new best friend.

    CultureMap [Joe Leydon]: Were there some days you were less worried about realism than others?

    Darren Aronofsky: Well, I just think that, every day, we tried to get as much as we could. I mean, sure, there are certain scenes that are less real, and there are some that are more arch, and it’s pretty obvious. But in general, we just tried to create as much a range of options as possible, so that we could play around in the editing room after we figured out exactly what was going on. The goal was just to get the actor to give you each direction clearly and truthfully.

    CM: OK, in this Internet Era, it’s practically impossible for anyone to walk into any movie without knowing a lot — maybe too much — about it. But in a more perfect world: What are the only things that people would know about Black Swan before they’d actually see it?

    DA: I think it should be a point that people know that it’s a thriller, and that there are scary elements. And that it’s original and different. Because I think people have gotten used to seeing the same thing over and over again. And I think that people who aren’t game for something that’s a little bit outside the box may have a hard time with it. And I think you’ve got to go into it with an adventurous spirit.

    CM: Are you concerned that because there’s been so much advance buzz about a certain scene in the film — an intimate scene involving Mila Kunis and Natalie Portman — people may be expecting a movie that is rather more, well, salacious than this one really is?

    DA: Oh, I don’t know. I think it’s a very sexy film. And a lot of different journalists and critics who have seen the film at this point and talked with me about it say, “How does it feel to have made the most erotic film in America for the last few years?"

    Which kind of blew me away. When people are saying that, I say, “Do you really think that?” I mean, I know everyone knows about the kiss between the two beautiful women in the film. But I think there’s a lot more that’s going on that’s sexier and as intense, if not more intense. I think the film is kind of filled with a lot of that — it’s a lot about sexuality. It’s about a woman who’s trying to discover her sexuality, and unlock it. So I think it’s there throughout the film.

    CM: In addition to the sexually charged scenes, there are highly dramatic, extremely stylized scenes in Black Swan that present daunting challenges — to folks on both sides of the camera. One wrong move, one false note, and you run the risk of having the audience laugh out loud.

    DA: Yes, but I think I’ve always walked that tightrope. If you think about it, all my films are on the edge of believability. So I walk that edge all the time. I imagine there were things that we photographed that were over the edge at times.

    But you just make sure that you’re covered and that you can pull back if you need to. But this film really goes to great heights to push reality. Like ballet itself. If you ever see ballet, you’ll see that ballet is really over the top. And extreme. And the stories are really, really overwrought and gothic. They’re like great fairy tales. And so we wanted to push the level of what people would accept. And push it right to the edge.

    CM: The underlying theme of Black Swan is the danger of pursuing of perfection. How does that theme speak to you?

    DA: I think perfection is an illusion. And life is about the mistakes. If you have high aspirations, and you’re trying to do something that’s cohesive — usually the best things happen when things go slightly wrong.

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    Movie Review

    Meta-comedy remake Anaconda coils itself into an unfunny mess

    Alex Bentley
    Dec 26, 2025 | 2:30 pm
    Jack Black and Paul Rudd in Anaconda
    Photo by Matt Grace
    Jack Black and Paul Rudd in Anaconda.

    In Hollywood’s never-ending quest to take advantage of existing intellectual property, seemingly no older movie is off limits, even if the original was not well-regarded. That’s certainly the case with 1997’s Anaconda, which is best known for being a lesser entry on the filmography of Ice Cube and Jennifer Lopez, as well as some horrendous accent work by Jon Voight.

    The idea behind the new meta-sequel Anaconda is arguably a good one. Four friends — Doug (Jack Black), Griff (Paul Rudd), Claire (Thandiwe Newton), and Kenny (Steve Zahn) — who made homemade movies when they were teenagers decide to remake Anaconda on a shoestring budget. Egged on by Griff, an actor who can’t catch a break, the four of them pull together enough money to fly down to Brazil, hire a boat, and film a script written by Doug.

    Naturally, almost nothing goes as planned in the Amazon, including losing their trained snake and running headlong into a criminal enterprise. Soon enough, everything else takes second place to the presence of a giant anaconda that is stalking them and anyone else who crosses its path.

    Written and directed by Tom Gormican, with help from co-writer Kevin Etten, the film is designed to be an outrageous comedy peppered with laugh-out-loud moments that cover up the fact that there’s really no story. That would be all well and good … if anything the film had to offer was truly funny. Only a few scenes elicit any honest laughter, and so instead the audience is fed half-baked jokes, a story with no focus, and actors who ham it up to get any kind of reaction.

    The biggest problem is that the meta-ness of the film goes too far. None of the core four characters possess any interesting traits, and their blandness is transferred over to the actors playing them. And so even as they face some harrowing situations or ones that could be funny, it’s difficult to care about anything they do since the filmmakers never make the basic effort of making the audience care about them.

    It’s weird to say in a movie called Anaconda, but it becomes much too focused on the snake in the second half of the film. If the goal is to be a straight-up comedy, then everything up to and including the snake attacks should be serving that objective. But most of the time the attacks are either random or moments when the characters are already scared, and so any humor that could be mined all but disappears.

    Black and Rudd are comedy all-stars who can typically be counted on to elevate even subpar material. That’s not the case here, as each only scores on a few occasions, with Black’s physicality being the funniest thing in the movie. Newton is not a good fit with this type of movie, and she isn’t done any favors by some seriously bad wigs. Zahn used to be the go-to guy for funny sidekicks, but he brings little to the table in this role.

    Any attempt at rebooting/remaking an old piece of IP should make a concerted effort to differentiate itself from the original, and in that way, the new Anaconda succeeds. Unfortunately, that’s its only success, as the filmmakers can never find the right balance to turn it into the bawdy comedy they seemed to want.

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    Anaconda is now playing in theaters.

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