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    The CultureMap Interview

    No retakes in war: The hippie parents' warrior talks Taliban fighting inRestrepo

    Joe Leydon
    Jul 10, 2010 | 6:19 pm
    • Restrepo tells the true story of the war in Afghanistan.
    • Sebastian Junger also wrote "The Perfect Storm."

    The TV news reporter wanted to stroll through the Angelika Film Center lobby alongside Sgt. Misha Pemble-Belkin, to get some intro footage for the interview they’d just taped. But the first attempt didn’t feel quite right for the reporter — and didn’t look quite right to her camera operator — so she asked if they could do it again.

    The twentysomething sergeant nodded gamely. He didn’t really mind. After all, the last time he was videotaped by journalists, he never got a chance to do retakes.

    That was back in 2007, when the Oregon-born Sgt. Pemble-Belkin and his comrades in Battle Company of the 173rd Airborne Brigade were serving in Afghanistan's treacherous Korengal Valley, one of the most dangerous postings in the U.S. military.

    At this remote strategic outpost — which they named Restrepo in honor of their medic, PFC Juan Restrepo, who was killed in action — they were assigned to deter the activities of guerrilla Taliban fighters and, whenever they weren’t being shot at, win the hearts and minds of profoundly skeptical locals. Neither task was easy.

    Starting in June 2007, award-winning photojournalist Tim Hetherington and author-journalist Sebastian Junger (The Perfect Storm) joined the men of Second Platoon, making a total of 10 trips to the Korengal over a period of several months. Each trip started with a helicopter flight into the valley, followed by a two-hour hike to Restrepo, where they found no running water, no Internet, no phone communication, and for a while, no electricity or heat.

    On some days, the outpost was attacked three or four times, from distances as close as 50 yards. Hetherington and Junger could not shoot back during firefights. But they did train their video cameras on Pemble-Belkin and his fellow soldiers, capturing unguarded moments of combat and boredom, humor and terror, frustration and tomfoolery, day-to-day life and sudden death.

    Restrepo, the extraordinary film Hetherington and Junger culled from more than 150 hours of footage, has been acclaimed by critics as a vivid and devastating documentary about the bonding and bravery of men under fire. But all the full-throated raves by professional reviewers — and the grand jury prize bestowed by the 2010 Sundance Film Festival — may not count quite as much as thumb’s-up appraisals by the movie’s subjects.

    Sgt. Misha Pemble-Belkin thinks so much of Restrepo that he motorcycled in from Louisiana’s Fort Polk, where he currently is stationed, to appear at an opening-day screening Friday night at the Angela Film Center.

    During a Q&A, he politely but firmly deflected what he calls “political questions,” but revealed that he wants to remain in the Army “until we win the war. I don’t want it to go on until my children are old enough to have to go over there.” And he laughed while agreeing that, while his parents love and support him, they would no doubt be among those most outspoken in their opposition to that war. Pemble-Belkin talked about everything from his hippie mom and dad to who he can and can't discuss the war with to ordering a journalist to stand guard duty in a CultureMap exclusive.

    CultureMap: In the movie, you speak affectionately about your “hippie,” pacifist parents. Do you think if they’d been gung-ho ex-Marines, you might not have wound up in Afghanistan?

    Misha Pemble-Belkin: Oh, I’m not sure about that. I probably would have been there anyway. I joined the military to serve my country — to defend it. I was raised to choose whatever career path I believed in. And I wanted to go into the military.

    CM: While you were in harm’s way during the time covered in Restrepo, did you ever get the feeling that, back home, people were focused more on the situation in Iraq, and that Afghanistan was more or less an afterthought?

    MPB: Yes. When we were in Afghanistan in 2007, 2008 — it was known as the forgotten war. Everybody thought no one was thinking about us over there. Except for the handful of our family members who were sending us care packages and things like that.

    CM: Many of us who never served in the military have noted that our parents and grandparents find it very difficult, even years after the fact, to talk about their wartime experiences. Has this been the case for you?

    MPB: Yeah, I do find it difficult to talk about my experiences with anyone who doesn’t understand what we’re doing over there. It’s one thing to talk with a buddy who’s also been over there, and they’ll say, “Hey, yeah, I know what that’s like.’ You can just go back and forth, and tell each other stories, and talk with him.

    But when you come back home, and you try to tell some of these stories, you have to deal with some of the questions people ask you. Like, “What is like to kill somebody?” I mean, why would you ask me something like that? And that makes it more difficult for me to speak about it. Because they don’t understand what it was like, and what you want to talk about.

    CM: How do you think we could understand?

    MPB: If you want to understand what it’s like, try to think of what it would be like to lose your mother or your father. Something that bad, that comparable. Over there — well, it’s not like you experience something like that on a daily basis. But maybe once a month over there, you may experience something like you only experience every 10 or 20 years here. Every day you’re out there, there’s a good chance you or one of your buddies will be killed.

    CM: It’s obvious that Tim Hetherington and Sebastian Junger had to have earned the respect and trust of you and your fellow soldiers for them to have gotten such an up-close and unfiltered view of your day-to-day lives. How did they do that?

    MPB: Well, most of the reporters who go over there, they’re in and out in a few days, or a couple of weeks. But they just stayed there, stayed with us. And they got to know us. And they’d bring us tobacco, they’d bring us dip — they’d bring us (satellite) phones so we could call home. They were around long enough for us to trust them. (Laughs) When we were first building Restrepo, we were sleeping on the ground.

    They helped us fortify the place, helped us fill up the sandbags. And that first night, I woke Tim up in the middle of the night and told him, “C’mon man. You got to get up and take your turn at guard.” And he was still half-asleep, and rubbing his eyes, and he said, “Yeah, right.” And I said, “No man, I’m not kidding. It’s your turn on guard.” And then he — well, he didn’t start laughing. But he got it.

    CM: Restrepo has gotten mostly rave reviews. But there have been a few critics who have complained that the movie doesn’t offer some sort of political statement about the war in Afghanistan. How would you respond to that?

    MPB: It’s not a political film. It’s just the true story of soldiers. And that’s it.

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    Movie Review

    Over-the-top acting and incoherent plot drag down Her Private Hell

    Alex Bentley
    Jul 23, 2026 | 3:00 pm
    Sophie Thatcher in Her Private Hell
    Photo courtesy of Neon
    Sophie Thatcher in Her Private Hell.

    Danish filmmaker Nicolas Winding Refn is not someone who plays nice with the general film world. His 2011 film Drive introduced him to American audiences in a big way, but that pulsating thriller was followed up with artier films like Only God Forgives and The Neon Demon that eschewed coherent plots in favor of moody, atmospheric pieces.

    Winding Refn, who hasn’t made a feature film in 10 years, has gone fully down the rabbit hole with Her Private Hell. Taking place in a liminal space that kind of resembles Earth but also feels like someone’s dreams/nightmares, the film focuses on Elle (Sophie Thatcher), an actor currently starring in a sci-fi film. Staying at a hotel with newcomer Hunter (Kristine Froseth), the two bond over their shared passion and the legend of Elle’s father, Johnny Thunders (Dougray Scott), who’s now married to Elle’s friend Dominique (Havana Rose Liu).

    After spending a good amount of (mostly incomprehensible) time with that group, Refn introduces Private K (Charles Melton), who seems to be living in post-World War II Japan. He is looking for his daughter, who might have been taken by a mysterious figure known as “Leatherman,” and he will stop at nothing to find her, fighting whoever stands in his way.

    It becomes clear almost right away that Winding Refn has no desire to engage in traditional storytelling in this film. The main characters wander through neon-drenched streets and buildings, which are often surrounded by a mist that is referred to on multiple occasions but never explained. Everyone speaks as if in a constant state of wonderment, and there are many moments where it’s unclear if events are actually happening, part of a movie-within-a-movie, or something else entirely.

    Unlike his previous films, Winding Refn has taken the characters in this film completely out of the real world, with every scene taking place in a sparsely decorated room or street that is obviously a movie set. While there are moments where this decision really works, especially the striking first shot of a human-like figure mixed in with a cityscape and clouds, most of the time it only adds to the stilted nature of the film as a whole.

    In fact, the entire movie has the feel of an avant-garde theater exercise. Every actor seems to be trying to outdo the others with awkward performances and out-sized reactions. Two very specific characters make appearances in both sides of the story for seemingly no reason other than to inject their weirdness into both spaces. The shocking violence that crops up on occasion would have more of an impact if it was related to anything intelligible.

    Thatcher (Companion) and Liu (Tuner) are among the young stars who have had breakout moments in recent years, but neither of them is served well by this hot mess of a movie. They, along with Melton, still demonstrate the talent they possess, but the oddity of the film weighs them down. Scott makes an impression for all the wrong reasons, while Froseth is called upon to play a character who might as well not be there at all.

    If there’s any kind of message that Winding Refn was trying to convey with Her Private Hell, it’s lost among the flashing lights, overload of pink, and jewel-like structures. Filmmakers who try to make art for art’s sake have a place in the world, but this film too often feels like people are making things up as they go, with no real goal in mind.

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    Her Private Hell opens in theaters on July 24.

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