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    The CultureMap Interview

    Kristin Chenoweth reveals all: Life as a runaway bride, her hidden Woodlands tieand being a Christian who won't judge

    Joel Luks
    May 20, 2012 | 5:01 pm

    It may seem that drama follows Kristin Chenoweth. On the day CultureMap spoke to the sassy blonde on the phone from Los Angeles, big commotion, sirens and chaos bellowed from her end of the cellphone line as she was passing by some sort of emergency scene.

    But it's all fiction for the Broadway queen-cum-country star-cum-opera diva. Theatrical on stage, cool and collected in real life, the petite gal on-the-go — literally as she's in the midst of a 19-city concert tour — is a big deal across many genres within the entertainment industry.

    Recently she has chosen to return to her Oklahoma roots with her album, Some Lessons Learned. She's going country. Growing up singing at church and rodeos, country is in her DNA. Chenoweth's upcoming concert, set for 7:30 p.m. Wednesday at Jones Hall, is a mélange of styles with plenty of surprises. Some you'll recognize, some are new.

    The 43-year-old is cute on the phone, darling and cheeky. But above all, real and personable. And she has plenty to say.

    CultureMap: This concert is a homecoming for you, isn't it? Though we all loved you in New York Philharmonic's Candide with conductor Marin Alsop, Glee and Glinda the Good Witch in Wicked, this album and song collection goes back to your early days.

    Kristin Chenoweth: I am excited. Houston feels like coming back home for me as my folks lived in The Woodlands for 12 years. I know the area very well, and it resembles the landscape of my native Oklahoma.

    Of course this tour represents my last album, Some Lessons Learned, but I am also singing things that people want to hear and tunes that if I didn't sing, I'd be murdered (laughs).

    But I am also stepping forward in my life and presenting some material I have always wanted to do that I haven't done yet. The tour is a mixture of opera — I had operatic training — country, Broadway and disco. It's one of the hardest things I've had to do. Vocally it's all over the map.

    But I can do it, so I should do it.

    CM: As versatile singer, what challenges do you face when mastering and getting ready to perform such a medley?

    KC: What I do: I don't speak during the day at all. At 4 p.m., I start with a slow warm-up with the help of my vocal coach. We'll do legit warm-ups and work through all styles of singing. The trick is not to over do it.

    You know the show is not just me standing on stage singing — it has many surprises, even some famous people appear, and reviewers have been great about not letting that secret out.

    Sure, I have family in Houston, but I want people to come out so I am not just singing to my family, you know?

    CM: What do you consider to be the crown accomplishment of your career so far? Was it working with Jamie Lee Curtis? Singing on Broadway? Appearing alongside Robin Williams, Nicole Kidman, Steve Martin, Idina Menzel, Danny DeVito? Shall I go on?

    KC: Oh. That's a tough question because I have been so blessed to work with many people whom I admire. For me, it's getting to have a stronger voice through my charity.

    When you are a semi-celebrity, there's often a fork in the road: You can do good or you can do nothing and stare into a corner. That's not me. I started a nonprofit that helps animals get adopted.

    In the concert I talk a lot about leaving your mark in the world. That's really what it is all about. The Tonys, Emmys, getting to perform at Carnegie Hall and all over the world — that's great. But being able to give back has been my favorite accomplishment.

    CM: What's up with ABC? We are going to miss your Carlene Cochran in GCB, though I understand there was a strong push from the Christian right to get that show canceled. Many of the show's fans thought it was premature.

    This wouldn't be the first time you've had discord with a conservative Christian world — I recall friction with the 700 Club. And you identify yourself as a Christian in a time when doing that isn't so popular. And you are supportive of equal rights.

    In what ways are you a traditional Christian and in what ways are you a forward thinking renegade?

    KC: I grew up in the bible belt. I am a Christian, but have never been into the judgmental thing that went along with that. I am not saying everyone judges, but it does exist.

    Later in life, I met my best friend who's gay. I struggled to understand why that person would go to hell.

    I made a decision that I was going to create a list asking the question, what would Jesus do? I know, it gets plenty of chuckles and is very Pollyanna. But think about it: Would Jesus condemn every gay person to go to hell? No, he wouldn't.

    That doesn't mean we are not sinners, but I don't believe God makes mistakes.

    He made me straight. If straight were considered a sin, what would I do? Would I try to be gay? If it were a sin to be 4-foot-11-inches, would I wear taller heels? God makes us how we are.

    I am not talking about promiscuity. I am talking about how we are born. And I can't find anywhere in the Bible where you wouldn't enter the Kingdom of Heaven because you are who you are.

    CM: One of my friends described you as having a "glow from the inside." How do you keep yourself fabulous? What are your wellness secrets?

    KC: Oh, Joel. I do struggle with my health, too. While I love to sing, perform and do a lot of recordings, movies and television — though not anymore apparently — my biggest challenge has been getting fit.

    It's about getting enough sleep for me. I do have a great support system who gives me unconditional love. If I couldn't do show biz, that would be so sad. But if I didn't have my friends and family, who keep me real and ground me — I just can't imagine that. The glow is from that blessing.

    Like if in the middle of a show, something (GCB) gets canceled, I keep it all relative. I am sad, but move forward. It was a great experience, but now we move forward.

    CM: Let's talk boys. You are surrounded by hotness, especially in GCB.

    KC: Uh hm . . .

    CM: There's David James Elliott (married), Mark Deklin (yum), Eric Winter (married), Grant Bowler (recently divorced) . . . who makes you tingle lately? Are you dating?

    KC: It's funny. I've been a runaway bride twice in my life. I do feel ready for that person, but I am not ready to settle for the wrong one.

    I recently did put myself out there — I dated a bit. It's hard to do so when I am on the road. But when I am done, I will resume dating.

    I was born to do one thing: That's to entertain. I need someone who understands that because to take that away from me would be a sin. I feel complete, though I want a man to share that with. I am OK if it does happen, I am OK if it doesn't.

    CM: Is there anything you'd love to do that you haven't had the opportunity to, yet?

    KC: I need to do a live album. Perhaps I'll do one of this tour because it's so diverse and fun. I get to do all sorts of things with my voice. Barbra (Streisand) has a live album, Bernadette (Peters) has one, don't you think I need one?

    Kristin Chenoweth will perform on Wednesday at 7:30 p.m. at Jones Hall. Tickets start at $35 and can be purchased online or by calling 713-227-3974.

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    Movie Review

    Star TV producer James L. Brooks stumbles with meandering movie Ella McCay

    Alex Bentley
    Dec 12, 2025 | 2:30 pm
    Emma Mackey in Ella McCay
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    Emma Mackey in Ella McCay.

    The impact that writer/director/producer James L. Brooks has made on Hollywood cannot be understated. The 85-year-old created The Mary Tyler Moore Show, personally won three Oscars for Terms of Endearment, and was one of the driving forces behind The Simpsons, among many other credits. Now, 15 years after his last movie, he’s back in the directing chair with Ella McCay.

    The similarly-named Emma Mackey plays Ella, a 34-year-old lieutenant governor of an unnamed state in 2008 who’s on the verge of becoming governor when Governor Bill (Albert Brooks) gets picked to be a member of the president’s Cabinet. What should be a happy time is sullied by her needy husband, Ryan (Jack Lowden), her agoraphobic brother, Casey (Spike Fearn), and her perpetually-cheating father, Eddie (Woody Harrelson).

    Despite the trio of men competing to bring her down, Ella remains an unapologetic optimist, an attitude bolstered by her aunt Helen (Jamie Lee Curtis), her assistant Estelle (Julie Kavner), and her police escort, Trooper Nash (Kumail Nanjiani). The film follows her over a few days as she navigates the perils of governing, the distractions her family brings, and the expectations being thrust upon her by many different people.

    Brooks, who wrote and directed the film, is all over the place with his storytelling. What at first seems to be a straightforward story about Ella and her various issues soon starts meandering into areas that, while related to Ella, don’t make the film better. Prime among them are her brother and father, who are given a relatively small amount of screentime in comparison to the importance they have in her life. This is compounded by a confounding subplot in which Casey tries to win back his girlfriend, Susan (Ayo Edebiri).

    Then there’s the whole political side of the story, which never finds its focus and is stuck in the past. Though it’s never stated explicitly, Ella and Governor Bill appear to be Democrats, especially given a signature program Ella pushes to help mothers in need. But if Brooks was trying to provide an antidote to the current real world politics, he doesn’t succeed, as Ella’s full goals are never clear. He also inexplicably shows her boring her fellow lawmakers to tears, a strange trait to give the person for whom the audience is supposed to be rooting.

    What saves the movie from being an all-out train wreck is the performances of Mackey and Curtis. Mackey, best known for the Netflix show Sex Education, has an assured confidence to her that keeps the character interesting and likable even when the story goes downhill. Curtis, who has tended to go over-the-top with her roles in recent years, tones it down, offering a warm place of comfort for Ella to turn to when she needs it. The two complement each other very well and are the best parts of the movie by far.

    Brooks puts much more effort into his female actors, including Kavner, who, even though she serves as an unnecessary narrator, gets most of the best laugh lines in the film. Harrelson is capable of playing a great cad, but his character here isn’t fleshed out enough. Fearn is super annoying in his role, and Lowden isn’t much better, although that could be mostly due to what his character is called to do. Were it not for the always-great Brooks and Nanjiani, the movie might be devoid of good male performances.

    Brooks has made many great TV shows and movies in his 60+ year career, but Ella McCay is a far cry from his best. The only positive that comes out of it is the boosting of Mackey, who proves herself capable of not only leading a film, but also elevating one that would otherwise be a slog to get through.

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    Ella McCay opens in theaters on December 12.

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