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    Host Defends Kardashian

    Wait Wait...Tell Me! Host of hit show defends Kim Kardashian and crushes on Paula Poundstone

    Elizabeth Rhodes
    Jun 24, 2015 | 11:16 am

    For more than 17 years, Peter Sagal has hosted NPR's hilarious weekly news panel game show, Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!, one of the most popular shows on public radio, heard by nearly three million listeners nationwide and by one million people every month via podcast.

    Now, Sagal and three panelists — Maz Jobrani, Alonzo Bodden and Paula Poundstone — are coming to Houston for a live taping of the show in front of a sold-out crowd at Jones Hall Thursday night. It will be broadcast this weekend on Houston Public Media’s News 88.7 — Saturday and Sunday at 10 a.m. — and on 520 stations around the nation.

    In advance of his Houston visit, Sagal spoke with CultureMap about taking the show on the road, local eats and the backlash from Kim Kardashian's recent appearance.

    CultureMap: First off, how different is the experience when taking the show on the road?

    Peter Sagal: Well, it isn't as much as it used to be, and what I mean by that is that more than 10 years ago — seems like prehistory to me — we used to spend most weeks in the studio and then we would take it on the road to special events in front of live audiences. In fact, in those days, it was hugely different because we were just doing the show for ourselves in the studio, which in retrospect was a terrible idea in comparison to doing it in front of large, enthusiastic audiences.

    It became so obvious that it was better that we switched to doing it in front of a live audience every week.

    It became so obvious that it was better that we switched to doing it in front of a live audience every week. That said, there is a tremendous thrill going to someplace we are not normally and playing to usually much larger, very enthusiastic crowds, which is why we still do it 10 times a year.

    It's really fun to travel across the country and find 2,000 people who are very excited to see us.

    CM: Do you have a favorite segment?

    PS: I love our interviews because most of the time it's people who I admire and would love to talk to and get to do it in front of thousands of people and for the benefit of five million people on the radio. I've been able to talk to everyone from two U.S. presidents — (President Barack) Obama and (former President Bill) Clinton — to some of my childhood heroes — Dick Van Dyke, Leonard Nimoy — to writers, thinkers.

    Maybe the greatest thrill I had, believe it or not, was talking to Norton Juster, who wrote the children's book, The Phantom Tollbooth, which was my favorite book when I was a kid. He sent me a signed copy of the book. It's just really great stuff.

    That said, the whole show is a joy because I'm on stage with three very, very funny people — that's especially true this week in Houston with Maz, Alonzo and Paula, who are three of the funniest people alive — and I just get to work with them. Being on stage with those guys and being able to screw around with them is pretty fun.

    CM: Is there any regular panelist who seems to be a crowd favorite?

    PS: Oh, that's easy — and I apologize to all my other panelists — but without question, it's Paula Poundstone. People love Paula Poundstone and they always have. The amazing thing about Paula is that she's amazingly distinctive and has a distinctive personality. You can see a lot of really, really great comedians, but you may walk away without a sense of who they really are.

    People love Paula Poundstone and they always have.

    Paula is always so profoundly herself. Her comic routines — she's very, very good and she's been doing it for 30 to 40 years — are similar. Paula comes out on stage and shes starts talking about her life and then 20 minutes later you realize you're in the middle of her comedy act and didn't really know it. She says, "Oh yeah, I got up to catch a plane this morning and my kid was like this," and you think she's just telling you a story about her life, but that's her comedy.

    So, people feel — more so than with other comedians — that they really know Paula and like her because she's adorable. Everybody loves Paula, sometimes to the dismay of other panelists. Sometimes when we take questions at the end of the show people will say, "Where's Paula?" I'm just there to feed her straight lines.

    CM: Kim Kardashian's recent appearance on the show caused quite a stir among NPR's fans. How do you feel about the backlash?

    PS: I think it's hilarious.

    First of all, I just want to clarify something. I wasn't on the show that week and some people think that I was somehow boycotting my own show because of Kim Kardashian. Not only is that not true — I had a prearranged thing to do elsewhere — but I wanted Kim Kardashian on the show and felt really bad that I couldn't be there to interview her. We tried to change the date so I could, but she's a busy woman, so I had to miss it. My only regret about the whole episode was that I wasn't there to interview her, but that's selfish because I think (guest host) Mike (Pesca) did a fine job.

    &Somebody wrote in and said, "Oh, the whole deal with Kim Kardashian was so awful, I couldn't believe it," and I said, "What did Kim Kardashian actually do that bothers you so much?"

    Somebody wrote in and said, "Oh, the whole deal with Kim Kardashian was so awful, I couldn't believe it," and I said, "What did Kim Kardashian actually do that bothers you so much?" Is it that she did a sex tape? Rob Lowe did a sex tape and went on our show and nobody protested. Is it because she's in the gossip columns for her romantic life? Well, so is Scarlett Johansson, and she also poses in negligees, but that doesn't seem to be a problem for people. Was it that she does reality TV? Well, we had on Andy Cohen from Bravo and he invented the modern soap opera reality TV show, the Real Housewives thing. He made it all possible, you know. So what exactly is the objection to Kim Kardashian? Nobody can tell me.

    People imagine that she represents something that they oppose. I think our listeners think that there's our world, which is literate and charming and intellectual, and then there's Kim Kardashian's world, which they don't know but they assume is dumb and superficial and is somehow destroying this country. My attitude is — let's assume there are two worlds, let's assume they're right, that Kim Kardashian lives in and represents a completely different world than the one in which we and our listeners live in — why wouldn't you want to talk to her?

    For me, that's exactly the reason you would want to talk to her. Oh my gosh, there's this whole other world out there that's interested in things that we don't know anything about. "What is it like to be in your world? Tell me about your day, tell me about your life, let's get to know you." If an alien came to earth, you wouldn't say, "Oh, you're from another planet." You'd say, "Tell us about your planet, what's it like there? What makes you happy? What's a day like on Planet Kardashian?"

    My attitude — and this is very much why I wanted to have her on the show — is that she is perhaps one of the most unique people in the entire world. Who else lives like her? Who else has had her success? Who else has had her exposure? Who else has had her life? I can't think of anybody.

    Kim Kardashian comes on our show and says she won't name her son "South" — everybody reported on it. It was in Vanity Fair, it was in People, in international news columns. You see that and think, "Wow, that's really interesting, what's it like to live like that?" So I really think the whole thing is silly.

    CM: Is there anything you look forward to doing while you're in Houston?

    PS: Eating. I can't decide whether to take my meal budget — by that I mean the three or four meals I get to have while in Houston — and spend them all on barbecue, Vietnamese food or some bizarre combination of the above. I'll probably try to get in all of it before I leave.

    Peter Sagal hosts NPR's weekly news panel game show, Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!, which airs on Houston Public Media’s News 88.7 on Saturday's and Sunday's at 10 a.m.

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    Best May Art

    MFAH's blockbuster modern art exhibit and 7 more openings in Houston this month

    Tarra Gaines
    May 11, 2026 | 12:45 pm
    as Pablo Picasso, Woman in a Multicolored Hat, part of the MFAH's upcoming Picasso–Klee–Matisse: Masterpieces from the Museum Berggruen exhibit, opening May 20
    Image courtesy MFAH
    Museum of Fine Arts, Houston presents Picasso–Klee–Matisse: Masterpieces from the Museum Berggruen (Pablo Picasso, Woman in a Multicolored Hat, 1939, oil on canvas, Museum Berggruen, Neue Nationalgalerie, Berlin. © 2026 Estate of Pablo Picasso / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York)

    May brings some of the biggest art shows and museum exhibitions of the year to town. Some fly in with patriotic fanfare, while others give us a rare opportunity to gaze at European masterworks. Whether someone is looking for irreverent performance art at the CAMH, wants to get in touch with whimsical spirits at Moody Art Center, buy art for a good cause at Silver Street, or get ready for the World Cup at Sawyer Yards, Houston artists, galleries, and museums have a show for all tastes.

    “Freedom Plane National Tour: Documents That Forged a Nation” at Houston Museum of Natural Science (now through May 25)
    We’ll call this one the art of democracy. This exhibition 250 years in the making might not fit the usual definition of "art," but this touring presentation of Founding-era documents at HMNS has to make this month's must-see list. The National Archives and Records Administration, in partnership with the National Archives Foundation, set aloft this flying tour of some of the nation’s most historical documents, complete with their own plane. Houston is one of only eight U.S. cities where the Freedom Plane will land. The original National Archives records featured in the exhibition are traveling together for the first time. Just some of the historic documents included in the exhibition are an original engraving of the Declaration of Independence; George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, and Aaron Burr’s Oaths of Allegiance, 1778; and the Secret Printing of the Constitution in Draft Form, 1787.

    “As our nation approaches its 250th anniversary, there is no more fitting tribute than bringing these original documents, leaving the National Archives together for the very first time, directly to the American people,” says Joel Bartsch, president and CEO of HMNS. “From George Washington’s oath as a Continental Army officer to the Treaty of Paris that secured our independence, these are not replicas or reproductions. They are the genuine records, and Houston will have the rare privilege of experiencing them in person this May.”

    “20th Annual Empty Bowls” at Silver Street Studios (May 15 and 16)
    For two decades this beloved grassroots fundraising event has given art lovers the chance to pick up one of a kind, handcrafted ceramic bowl-shaped artworks for just $25 dollars each and helped to serve up millions of meals to the hungry. Over the years, Empty Bowls Houston has raised over $1.2 million for the Houston Food Bank. The lunch fundraiser is a collaboration between Houston-area ceramists, woodturners, and artists working in all media and Houston Center for Contemporary Craft. A special ticketed preview party on May 15 will feature light bites, beer and wine, live music, a pottery throw down event with local potters, and a chance to purchase a bowl early before the main event on May 16. Archway Gallery will also host its own annual Empty Bowls exhibition throughout May.

    “No Longer, Not Yet” at Art League (May 15-July 19)
    This exhibition of mixed media and fiber sculptures from Houston-based artist Marisol Valencia is the culmination of Valencia volunteering at a Houston-area shelter serving migrant women and children. To create the works in the show, Valencia uses material imbued with meaning, including fibers sourced from rural Mexican communities where migration often shapes daily life; bedsheets and pillows gathered from the shelter; and porcelain pieces inscribed with collected definitions of “home.” At the center of the exhibition will be a large cascading crochet sculpture made in collaboration with women and volunteers at the shelter.

    “Picasso–Klee–Matisse: Masterpieces from the Museum Berggruen” at Museum of Fine Arts (May 20-September 13)
    Houston claims another first as the MFAH hosts the U.S. debut of this monumental touring exhibition of masterworks by Pablo Picasso, Paul Klee, Henri Matisse, Alberto Giacometti, and other major artists of postwar Europe. The exhibition will also tell the story of influential gallerist Heinz Berggruen and his relationship with the artists and collecting world. From the 1940s into the 1990s, Heinz Berggruen assembled a singular collection of hundreds of modern masterworks, many directly from the artists, and then in 2000, Berggruen placed the collection with the German state. The collection is now housed in the Museum Berggruen in Berlin-Charlottenburg as part of the Berlin State Museums/Foundation of Prussian Cultural Heritage.

    “It is especially rewarding to introduce our audiences to the life and legacy of Heinz Berggruen — a pioneering art dealer, publisher, and collector whom I was privileged to know and work with for more than two decades,” remarks MFAH director Gary Tinterow on bringing the exhibition to Houston.

    “Ballet of the Masses” at Sawyer Yards (May 21-July 25)
    As Houston gets ready for the World Cup, local artists score their own kind of goals with this exhibition of artful soccer balls. Over 40 Houston artists have put a unique spin on a regulation sized fútbol — turning them into sculptural pieces. Organizers will suspend the works from the ceiling of Sabine Street Studios' North Gallery to create a kind of celestial soccer constellation. Together, these works will celebrate the dynamism and joy within sports and art.

    “Never Forgotten” at Sabine Street Studios (May 21-July 25)
    This powerful exhibition comes from a unique collaboration between Texas Center for the Missing, Houston Police Department Forensic Artists, and Sabine Street Studios, all dedicated to bringing the missing home. Three local forensic artists: Thurston Johnson, Bryan Bradley, and Kristen Aloysius have created age-progression portraits of missing persons in the hopes of reuniting families. Beyond showcasing real art, “Never Forgotten” was organized to shine a light on each individual case and continue raising awareness of the missing in our community. Sabine Street Studios will also host special programming in conjunction with the show, including a workshop on forensic drawing and drawing portraits based on memories.

    “Mary Ellen Carroll: How To Talk Dirty and Influence People” at Contemporary Arts Museum (May 22-November 1)
    Acclaimed New York-based conceptual artist Mary Ellen Carroll has spent over four decades crossing disciplines of performance art, photography, architecture, writing, video making, and public art to explore issues of environmentalism, architectural and technological infrastructure, immigration, urban legislation, and identity, as well as tackling fundamental questions of the nature of art. And some of this exploration has taken place in Houston with Carroll’s continual transformation and documentation of a post-war home in the city’s Sharpstown neighborhood.

    This first major museum survey of Carroll’s work takes inspiration from legendary comic Lenny Bruce’s 1965 autobiography of the same name, and emphasizes the irreverent and honest nature of Carroll’s work. The exhibition will bring renewed focus onto some of Carroll’s larger series, for example, “prototype 180,” the Sharpstown project, and “My Death Is Pending… Because,” consisting of separate pieces like video documentation of the artist driving and destroying a 1985 Buick in a demolition derby in 2017 and video of Carroll in a polar bear suit climbing a defunct smokestack in Memphis.

    “Carroll is that unique kind of artist who continually reminds you of the power of art and artists to inspire radical change, in ourselves and the world,” notes senior curator Rebecca Matalon.

    "Shapeshifters, Sprites, and Spirits” at Rice Moody Center for the Arts (May 29 - August 15)
    Delve into a world of whimsical wonder in this new exhibition and the first Texas solo show of acclaimed Japanese artist Masako Miki’s sculptural work and installations. Influenced by diverse artistic movements from European Surrealism to Japanese manga, Miki creates sculptures from felt layered over wood armatures. Once completed, they resemble animated and large scale forms of everyday objects infused with personality and character.

    Miki’s work is also inspired by folkloric traditions, especially Shinto animism and its belief that all beings and things contain a spirit. For the site specific Moody exhibition, Miki has also created works with a focus on yōkai, supernatural entities taking the form of beings, objects, and apparitions, and particularly those that appear in the Night Parade of One Hundred Demons (Hyakki Yagyō), a legend dating to medieval Japan.

    “My characters are ordinary but have extraordinary powers,” describes Miki of her sculptures. “They are secular but are attuned to sacred traditions. As a collective, they advocate for both individual and collective agency, and the importance of stories as unifying systems in today’s complex world.”

    as Pablo Picasso, Woman in a Multicolored Hat, part of the MFAH's upcoming Picasso\u2013Klee\u2013Matisse: Masterpieces from the Museum Berggruen exhibit, opening May 20
    Image courtesy MFAH

    Museum of Fine Arts, Houston presents Picasso–Klee–Matisse: Masterpieces from the Museum Berggruen (Pablo Picasso, Woman in a Multicolored Hat, 1939, oil on canvas, Museum Berggruen, Neue Nationalgalerie, Berlin. © 2026 Estate of Pablo Picasso / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York)

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