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    Mo Rocca revives the dead with his witty Houston Mobituaries appearance

    Steven Devadanam
    Jan 20, 2020 | 1:00 pm
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    The effortlessly witty Mo Rocca brings his Mobituaries to Houston.
    Photo by John Paul Filo courtesy of CBS Broadcasting Inc.

    Emmy Award-winner Mo Rocca sees dead people.

    More specifically, the television personality and humorist sees the dearly departed in a way that few others can. Rocca, widely known as a correspondent and occasional host for CBS Sunday Morning, boasts a deft ability to craft lively tales of the dead through his Mobituaries, a No. 1 podcast and now, a best-selling new book: Mobituaries: Great Lives Worth Reliving.

    His immensely popular podcast and new book aim to do justice to people who didn’t always receive a fair shake in their prime. Icons such as Sammy Davis, Jr. and Lawrence Welk — whom he calls a “badass” — get well-researched and in-depth sendoffs. But his Mobituaries also pay homage to cultural phenomenons of yore: the station wagon, the Reconstruction, even dragons.

    In the ephemera that is pop culture, Rocca slows down to tell long, detailed, “whatever happened to?” stories. (His tribute to ’80s pop singer Laura Branigan of “Gloria” fame is simply a must-listen.)

    “One of the sobering lessons of working on this project is that we’re all going to be forgotten very quickly,” Rocca tells CultureMap. Little wonder, then, why the living are flocking to his tales of the deceased.

    Rocca will be in Houston for a book signing and a fireside chat-style Q&A session with PBS host, Ernie Manouse. The event begins at 2 pm Tuesday, January 21, at the Julia Ideson Library.

    CultureMap caught up with Rocca in advance of his Houston visit to talk Mobits, his time on the Daily Show, and Houston food.

    CultureMap: Mobituaries are a bona fide hit. What is it about obituaries and deaths? Do we like to reminisce and memorialize people? Do we love a little melancholy?

    Mo Rocca:
    That’s a great question, and melancholy is such an interesting word. I like to feel wistful and I think a lot of people like to. Wistful is sort of the operative in a lot of these. I’m not a big nostalgia person, which I think is different. I think nostalgia is great but it can also be sloppy and uncritical — I don’t like that.

    These are thoroughly fact-checked and that’s really important to tell the truth about these people. My friend Catherine says, “I think all of us, on some level, want to be remembered, and I think that’s why we read obituaries.” And I think that’s probably true, or at least we all wonder how we may be remembered.

    CM: Life is a work in progress. Is it easier to tell a compelling life story when the story is fully complete?

    MR:
    Yes, and I think it’s also fun to read about a life as a point of comparison: Would I have made that choice that she made at that age? Would I have done what he did at that juncture?

    And I also think I can be super petty, and think, ‘Oh my God, I can’t believe he accomplished all that by the time he was 25. Oh, thank God he went to prison when he was 47, so I’m back in the lead!’

    CM: We get it! Is there a particular Mobituary that rings particularly loudly today?

    MR:
    One of the reasons I liked doing the Reconstruction story, one of the things I found interesting about it, not only was this a pocket of history people didn’t know about or had forgotten about — especially with the black Congressmen — but I also frankly thought it was interesting that the black Congressmen of Reconstruction, more than half of whom had been enslaved only a handful of years before, when they came to Washington, there were a lot of white Congressmen that accepted them and socialized with them.

    It makes the failure of Reconstruction all the more heartbreaking, because it shows you that, back then, in the 1870s, there were people that went, ‘Okay, this thing is settled. It’s time to move on.’ And I think we do — pun intended — look at things really black and white. And, so, something like Reconstruction, you’re taught that not only was it a failure, but that it was fated to fail — and it really wasn’t. I mean, you can put a modern parlance on it, but there were plenty of progressives back then.

    So, people are complicated, and there have been good people and bad people in all groups from time immemorial. So, it’s not like a simple, straight line.

    CM: How did you pick who or what deserves a Mobituary for the book or podcast?

    MR:
    I have learned to trust my gut more— I’ve learned that if I’m interested in something and it’s executed well enough, the audience will come along for the ride; it’ll be contagious. So rather than game the system, I try to scratch the itch that I have.

    Going with a topic that I have some sort of connection with — even if it’s tangential, even if it’s a memory — that works well. Podcasts are an intimate medium.

    CM: Do you end up fond of your subjects and sources?

    MR:
    I come from a show, CBS Sunday Morning, whose original host, Charles Kuralt — a genius of broadcasting — once said, “It’s okay to like the people you interview. That doesn't make you a lesser journalist.” That’s definitely been one of the guiding principles of this podcast. These are people that I like: Sammy Davis Jr., Lawrence Welk. But, I’m sure we’ll do episodes of people that are fascinating who I don’t like, but even then, I want to seek to understand.

    And when you’re talking about obituaries, that usually means giving people the benefit of the doubt. Talk to me when we do the Mobituary about Adolf Eichmann and that will be different. But these are people who didn’t get the sendoff they deserve.

    CM: Have you noticed anyone or anything lately getting a bad rap that would deserve a Mobituary in the future?

    MR:
    That’s really interesting. You know, you see people when they’re trashed [in the media] and you think, ‘That’s interesting, because that person might be seen very differently in 30 years.’ Anytime somebody’s written off by somebody else, I think to myself, ‘That’s pretty smug — you don’t know.’ We don’t know how we’ll be judged.

    CM: Talk a little about the jump from Daily Show to CBS Sunday Morning, which seems a perfect fit for your wit and humor.

    MR: Thank you. Yeah, it really is. I realize that more and more. I certainly don’t take it for granted. My fondest memories of The Daily Show — I fondly remember getting on the show and experiencing that exhilarating feeling of – each time, really — pitching a story, and I still have that with CBS Sunday Morning, coming up with an idea and it getting greenlit and then doing it. It’s a great feeling. Certainly, in the studio, getting a big laugh and landing a joke.

    CM: And then you left the Daily Show.

    MR:
    Yeah, the in-studio stuff wasn’t satisfying to me. It was a lot of just doing the sort of standing in front of a green-screen and kinda going, ‘Well, Jon [Stewart], I’m here in Baghdad.’ And, while the audience loved that, it wasn’t challenging. I wasn’t developing. Certainly, my voice wasn’t developing, and I wasn’t as good as I was in the field.

    So, when I left the show, it was a very, very insecure time for me, because I was basically throwing a lot against the wall to see what stuck — doing a lot of different kinds of shows. And, at times, it was kind of nerve-wracking.

    But when I look back, it was really the right thing to do. Because I couldn’t have learned and gotten better if I had stayed on the show doing that kind of satirical persona.

    CM: You’re a serious (at times) reporter on CBS Sunday Morning. How is Sunday Morning like the Daily Show?

    MR:
    Part of what’s great about CBS Sunday Morning is it’s like going back to college and taking only electives. Or, to use another metaphor, it’s kind of like the variety pack of cereals, which I always loved, like the six different, little boxes rather than the big box.

    But, you know, I’m allowed, one week, to do a serious cover story — because I like to do serious stories — and then, the next week, a beloved diva. Or, I get to do sort of, zanier, kicker-type pieces. And I get to indulge my love of history.

    CM: Who would you like to write your Mobituary, and what would you hope it would read or say?

    MR:
    I don’t know who I’d like to write my Mobituary. I’ve become friendly with Margalit Fox, a highly respected obit writer for the New York Times — so that would be kind of nice.

    I’d like to be acknowledged as somebody who enthusiastically pursued a range of interests and made other people interested in them and exposed people to them.

    CM: Let’s talk a little about your time in Texas: You wrote and produced on the beloved Wishbone in Dallas. What are some of your fondest memories of Dallas — and of Houston?

    MR:
    Wishbone was a really great PBS kids TV show. And that was a really interesting experience for me personally, professionally, and ultimately. Creatively, it is the toolbox — I’m not kidding you — that’s more important than any I’ve had and I go back to it constantly. I had to learn to retell the stories of some of the greatest novels in the western canon for kids — through the eyes of a dog. It sounds crazy, I know, but it was storytelling bootcamp.

    Personally, I made a bad choice of living in the suburbs at that time — Plano. I love Texas. I have great friends in Dallas and I’m a big fan of Houston. Don’t tell Dallas, but I think Houston has better food.

    (Editor’s note: It’ll be our secret, Mo.)

    ---

    Mo Rocca will sign Mobituaries: Great Lives Worth Reliving and chat with Ernie Manouse at 2 pm Tuesday, January 21, at the Julia Ideson Building (550 McKinney St.). For tickets and more information, visit houstonlibraryfoundation.org. $25.

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    Houston Grand Opera names Rice alum James Gaffigan its next music director

    Tarra Gaines
    Nov 6, 2025 | 9:00 am
    ​Houston Grand Opera names James Gaffigan as next Music Director
    Photo by Claire McAdams
    Houston Grand Opera names James Gaffigan as next Music Director

    Opera lovers in the audience for the Houston Grand Opera’s magnificent season opening production of Porgy and Bess didn’t know it, but they were hearing HGO’s future. James Gaffigan, the acclaimed conductor of the performance will no longer be called an honored guest to the company and our city; instead, he’ll make the Wortham Center his new home.

    HGO announced on Thursday, November 6, that Gaffigan will serve as the fifth music director in its 70-year history, leading the company alongside general director and CEO Khori Dastoor. He replaces Patrick Summers, who announced last year that he would step down as artistic and music director at the end of the 2025-26 season.

    When Gaffigan begins his term as music director designate for the 2026-27 season and then assumes the full role of music director in the 2027-28 season, he won’t find Houston an unfamiliar landscape. Though originally from New York, Gaffigan once lived here while earning his master’s degree from the Shepherd School of Music at Rice University.

    After his time at Rice, he quickly rose to international superstardom in both symphonic and operatic circles. He has conducted some of the greatest orchestras around the country, including the New York Philharmonic, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, San Francisco Symphony, Los Angeles Philharmonic, and many others. In Europe he has taken the podium at the London Symphony Orchestra, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Deutsches Symphonie Orchester Berlin, and more.

    In 2011, he made both his HGO and American operatic debut with the company’s production of The Marriage of Figaro. He has also become a very welcome guest conductor for national and international opera houses, including the Metropolitan Opera, Bayerische Staatsoper, Opéra National de Paris, Lyric Opera of Chicago, and more.

    For the past several years, he has made a home in Europe serving as the general music director of Komische Oper Berlin, and he recently completed his fourth and final season as music director of the Palau de les Arts Reina Sofía in Valencia, Spain.

    Even with such a strong global presence, this Rice Owl continues to migrate back to Houston, guest conducting the Houston Symphony several times. Last year, he lead the first-ever performance by the HGO Orchestra at the annual Eleanor McCollum Competition for Young Singers Concert of Arias.

    Gaffigan’s ties to Houston are so strong that back in 2011, CultureMap’s own society king and classical music expert, Joel Luks, pondered if Gaffigan might be an excellent candidate for Houston Symphony director upon Han Graf ’s retirement. Luks, who attended the Shepherd School at the same time as Gaffigan, lauded the maestro’s sense of musical timing, charisma, and spirit.

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    Houston Grand Opera has named James Gaffigan as its next Music Director.

    “He seems to understand music-making in a macro level, presenting a cohesive interpretation, while allowing musicians freedom of expression,” described Luks, also noting Gaffigan’s ability to connect with musicians and audiences, alike.

    It turns out Luks’s prediction for a musical directorship for Gaffigan was only off by 14 years and about a theater district block, the distance from Jones Hall to the Wortham Center.

    “I always knew that the first post I would take in the United States as music director had to be the perfect fit,” Gaffigan said in a statement. “All the boxes needed to be ticked. As I considered which institution, which city, and which community aligned with my dreams and goals for an American institution, I found HGO to be my ideal partner. In my opinion, HGO is the most exciting opera company in the United States. It is rare to find such a healthy institution, with tremendous potential, and a solid foundation on which to build.”

    Gaffigan went on to reminisce that he has admired HGO since his early twenties.

    “When walking into the building, I get a sense of community and excitement for our art form and the importance it has in our lives. I feel the same from the people in the greater Houston area. Houstonians want great art. Under Khori Dastoor’s leadership, the company has flourished, and it has become clear to me that the sky is the limit. I can’t wait to return to this city and start our thrilling new chapter together.”

    Dastoor sings similar praises for Gaffigan.

    “To welcome James Gaffigan back to Houston, and to HGO, as our new music director represents the fulfillment of an ambitious dream,” stated Dastoor. “This fall, Houston audiences have had the incredible opportunity to witness his passion, electric energy, and mind-blowing artistry at the podium. I am overjoyed that today’s leading American conductor — who embodies a new generation of music-making at the highest level — has chosen to invest fully in this company. James was steeped in the art and culture of Houston on his way to finding phenomenal international success. His return is both a testament to our city and a reflection of HGO’s ascendance as a force in the global opera industry.”

    For those wanting to get a taste of that passion and energy Gaffigan will bring to his role as Houston Grand Opera music director, he conducts Porgy and Bess November 7 and 9.

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